NEW ORLEANS (AP) — A Super Bowl halftime show performer was charged Thursday with two misdemeanors, about 4 1/2 months after he ran across the field at the Superdome waving a flag that included the words “Sudan and Free Gaza,” Louisiana State Police said.

Zul-Qarnain Kwame Nantambu, 41, turned himself in to authorities to face of charges resisting a police officer and disturbing the peace by interrupting a lawful assembly, police said. He surrendered in coordination with his attorney and was booked into the Orleans Parish Justice Center.

Nantambu revealed the flag and ran on the field during rapper Kendrick Lamar’s halftime performance on Feb. 9. He was detained on the field after his demonstration but not charged. The NFL said at the time he would be banned for life from league stadiums and events.

According to a statement from police, Nantambu had been hired as an extra performer and “had permission to be on the field during the performance, but did not have permission to demonstrate as he did.”

NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy thanked investigators for their work.

“We take any attempt to disrupt any part of an NFL game, including the halftime show, very seriously and are pleased this individual will be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law,” McCarthy said in a statement.

acab isntrael

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    In what way are his actions not representative of a large part of the US population? Not the majority, but a decent amount. He represents and leads his base, who are fascists, the policies he wants to enact are not abnormal for the history of the US. The last 60-100 years or so has had some progressivism but what Trump and MAGA represent has always been a core part of the US; white-supremacist imperialism.

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      Not the majority, but a decent amount.

      The MAGA Nazis cheated to achieve power, and they are an illegitimate government who does not represent the wishes of the vast majority of American citizens. Do not blame all Americans for the crimes of a treasonous criminal enterprise who is being supported by hostile foreign governments, Sociopathic Oligarchs, and Transnational Corporations. Oh, and a lot of really stupid, gullible morons.

      Most Americans want their country to change, too.

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        The MAGA Nazis cheated to achieve power, and they are an illegitimate government

        Do you mean that they broke the law in any way more substantial than it is reasonable to assume every frontrunner does? Because I’m happy to sign on to the idea that America’s electoral system is fundamentally a tool of the owning class and every administration we’ve had has been illegitimate, but I don’t think that that’s what you mean.

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            kitty-cri-screm guys america is perfect and FREE and EPIC and every bad thing that happens is because PUTLER and fELON made TACO president against the will of the american people -someone who has clearly never driven in the midwest before

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            michael-laugh you think it took a sophisticated effort by international hackers to electronically rig the election when paid-for-by-kamala-harris was running that embarrassment of a campaign? Did you just fall out of a coconut tree? contextphobic

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            literally the exact same thing they said when Biden won in 2020, like word for word, without a hint of irony. it’s so funny to see blue team dive into qanon style conspiracy theories without a second thought (or even a first!)

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            Is “Goblin” Musk here? You keep talking about intellectual seriousness and then using childish nicknames. Like, let me be clear, Musk should be executed, I’m not making a moral claim against you there, I just think you look silly and are hampering your own communication.

            Trump won the election. The Electoral College itself is anti-democratic, but within the parameters of winning the electoral college, Trump won and pretending he didn’t is lowering yourself to his level in 2020 when his loss was just as obvious and explainable as Kamala’s subsequently was.

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                I think it’s Musk, it’s kind of almost endearing how they keep using these names that literally nobody else has ever used. Strong ”Wrap it up, Obamailures” energy.

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        Most Americans want their country to change, too.

        lol, you can’t seriously believe that. Do most Americans want their country to stop murdering people in unjust wars and to stop funding Israel’s genocide? The answer is obviously no, because you libs are fine with your country doing that just as long as a Democrat is in charge. The majority of Amerikkkans were in favor of bombing Iran, just like they were in favor of invading Iraq.

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          Do most Americans want their country to stop murdering people in unjust wars and to stop funding Israel’s genocide?

          Yes, quite so. But we need to very clear about what we mean by “Americans”.

          If we mean the electorate, then yes people want it to stop. If we mean the electors, then fuck no.

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          Do most Americans want their country to stop murdering people in unjust wars and to stop funding Israel’s genocide? The answer is obviously no, because you libs are fine with your country doing that just as long as a Democrat is in charge. The majority of Amerikkkans were in favor of bombing Iran

          Polling is pretty clear that yes, most Americans do want the US to stop arming Israel and were very opposed to war in Iran.

          https://news.gallup.com/poll/657404/less-half-sympathetic-toward-israelis.aspx

          https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/trump-iran-strikes-poll-cnn-ssrs

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          People have really been turning against Israel in the past several months, and most people (not politicians, people) didn’t want us to bomb Iran. There was definitely broad support for invading Iraq, but the pols had the advantage of weaponizing 9/11 for that purpose.

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            Even the MAGAs wanted HitlerPig to keep America out of wars (America First), and they aren’t happy about it.

            Do you seriously believe this bullshit? It’s funny that you claim to hate them and call them nazis, yet you fell for their garbage and defend them. They’ll just come up with an excuse for why this war is justifiable because Evil Country is that bad.

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              This person is a horrible reactionary, but this one point is at least mostly correct. A lot of dumb hogs thought Trump was serious about stopping wars and avoiding new ones, so of course they oppose the bombing even if they think all Persians are evil

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        The MAGA Nazis cheated to achieve power

        Every president has done this. This is why they accept bribes and fight with teams of lawyers.

        and they are an illegitimate government who does not represent the wishes of the vast majority of American citizens.

        This applies to every president. American “democracy” has always been a white supremacist bourgeois joke. You know that only white landowner men could vote originally, right?

        Do not blame all Americans for the crimes of a treasonous criminal enterprise

        Liberals and the politically confused living in this fantasy bubble are part of the same cluster of false consciousness as MAGA and their alternative candidates have done worse crimes. Even just the last government. The genocide of Gaza is Biden’s, he gave it full support while doing the little PR dance that always works on liberals: lying about trying to do better. This administration is part of a continuity of oppression. This is why candidates more on the left are isolated and prevented from power by the Democrats.

        In addition, the policies of liberals ensure poverty and dispossession with no political outlet for resolving them. With no left outlet, that leaves the right, who Dems curate to be their opposition (and vice versa). Dems promoted Trump and scuttled Sanders. This creates and maintains a society where false consciousness is promoted, such as turning to racist or xenophobic explanations. American classics.

        who is being supported by hostile foreign governments

        Who gives a shit. The US regularly topples governments and meddles in many more. Caring more about this than that is just chauvinism, proving you have more in common with Trump than you think.

        Sociopathic Oligarch

        Same as all presidents. Your favorite president. Name them. They were supported by sociopathic oligarchs. The US is run by capital.

        and Transnational Corporations.

        Like I said, the US is run by capital. Those transnationals are imperialist, they funnel profits to OECD countries and base their policies in the US, the global state power of capital. You could say this about all presidents since WWII and even be mostly right since the mid-1800s.

        Oh, and a lot of really stupid, gullible morons.

        Why are they stupid and gullible?

        Most Americans want their country to change, too.

        Change how? Americans, first and foremost, have no political consciousness. This is why those on the left spend so much time on educating others. Wanting change, for Americans, can mean almost anything and changes based on what the last attractive person told them was cool.

        Deporting or imprisoning every brown person would be “change” and would be popular among Republicans and Democrats alike if their political class color scheme told them to support it. Republicans frothing at the mouth with 80% support until it started crashing the economy and Democrats with 50% faux-reluctant support and 20% frothinh support.

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          The “they’re all the same” argument is lazy and not worth engaging. This the same thinking that allowed the rise of MAGA.

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            The “they’re all the same” argument is lazy and not worth engaging.

            also you:

            America is responsible for the exact kinds of crimes that literally Every other nation in the world has committed, many long before America was even founded, including whatever country you come from.

            wishing you a jet of rancid diarrhea all over your face

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            The “they’re all the same” argument is lazy and not worth engaging.

            also you:

            Stop acting like America is the only nation that has misbehaved throughout history.

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              Much of what you said is true, but that doesn’t mean Americans like it. We allowed billionaires to gain an outsized influence in American police and now we have to dig ourselves out of it. This is NOT what most Americans want, anymore than the Nazis were what most Germans wanted. These people forced their way into power, partially the fault of weak/ lazy/ corrupt politicians who turned away from the threat, and now they intend to hold power through intimidation.

              It won’t work. The one thing Americans are is fighters. We love to fight, and we will eventually conquer the MAGA Nazis. I’m not really worried about that part. It will happen, they are already doomed.

              My concern is that once they are gone, we won’t take the opportunity to rebuild our country properly, in order to avoid more trouble down the road. Andrew Johnson took over after Lincoln’s assassination, and sabotaged the Reconstruction efforts, causing the Jim Crow era of racial inequality of the next 100 years, and eventually leading to MAGA.

              We can’t make that mistake again. We will have to rebuild with a different philosophy, and crush anyone who tries to insist on a policy of Hate.

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                It won’t work. The one thing Americans are is fighters. We love to fight, and we will eventually conquer the MAGA Nazis. I’m not really worried about that part. It will happen, they are already doomed.

                Literal fascist rhetoric.

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                We allowed billionaires to gain an outsized influence in American police and now we have to dig ourselves out of it.

                The owning class running society has been the case for basically all of recorded human history. There is a direct continuity from the landed gentry and mercantile class of the late medieval period to the bourgeois masters of today. This isn’t something that we tripped into as recently as the last 80 years.

                This is NOT what most Americans want, anymore than the Nazis were what most Germans wanted.

                The worst liberal lie about Nazi Germany is that Hitler won his election, so I’m glad you aren’t doing that, but Nazis did win many lower seats and the economically liberal establishment was quite amenable to working with Nazis to crush the communists, which directly led to the Nazi takeover, and then the Nazis were able to run society with impressively little resistance from the social majority Germans. This is where you now offer excuses and clean Wehrmacht nonsense for me.

                The one thing Americans are is fighters.

                No, we’re bullies toward whoever our respective cultural factions view as inferior (queers, rednecks, etc.) who love to wallow in treats and sneer at the victims of empire, or even just victims of natural disasters and plague if they fall into one of the aforementioned groups.

                My concern is that once they are gone, we won’t take the opportunity to rebuild our country properly, in order to avoid more trouble down the road. Andrew Johnson took over after Lincoln’s assassination, and sabotaged the Reconstruction efforts, causing the Jim Crow era of racial inequality of the next 100 years, and eventually leading to MAGA.

                We can’t make that mistake again. We will have to rebuild with a different philosophy, and crush anyone who tries to insist on a policy of Hate.

                When a Marxist calls you idealist, this is the sort of reasoning they are talking about. The abortion of Reconstruction was certainly a mistake in terms of Lincoln’s planning, because his political philosophy of appointing political enemies was extremely stupid and itself idealist, but to act like it was a mistake in any broader sense is misinformed. Just like all the other monstrous actions the US has taken part in, there is a material basis for it being the favored outcome, with deeply entrenched interests who are rarely ever challenged.

                You’ve been continuously suggesting a collective guilt that I don’t think is reflective of the uninterrupted monopoly on power held by the owning class, which Trump is just a particularly crude expression of.

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                You have an (alleged) history degree and you seriously think it was just one man on his own whim who sabotaged reconstruction?

                Andrew Johnson took over after Lincoln’s assassination, and sabotaged the Reconstruction efforts, causing the Jim Crow era of racial inequality of the next 100 years, and eventually leading to MAGA.

                Americans did this. All of them collectively, not “one bad apple” you can shame and wave away the rest.

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        I agree actually that most Americans don’t support outwardly horrific things (though a huge portion really do because that is what America is based on, death and white supremacy) but he perfectly represents what this country is actually about, dictatorship of the bourgeois.

        Also good lord enough with the “hostile foreign governement” thing and accept that the horror is coming from inside the house.

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          It is counterproductive to ignore the fact that America is under attack by two foreign Sociopathic Oligarchs, assisted by the most prolific Traitor in American history, and also a vicious Sociopath. None of them have any loyalty or patriotism to America, and only see it it as a rich, fat, lazy target to be exploited ruthlessly.

          These are simple facts, and America cannot be saved, and perhaps even redeemed (the wish of most Americans, who are quite aware of our historical stains), until the real enemies are purged from our society, and the world. Scoffing at the reality of the situation is stupid.

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            If you think the people buying the country are a more fundamental issue than the people selling the country, I’m not sure what to say. If you think the people selling the country are just Maga, I likewise have the same difficulty.

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            America is under attack by two foreign Sociopathic Oligarchs

            On the contrary, Trump is very loyal to the american empire’s interests. His whole trade war gamble shows his greater vision. Forcing the entire world to renegotiate terms and get better deals for american monopoly capitalists.

            until the real enemies are purged from our society

            I wouldn’t say that the bourgeoise should be purged, but tamed and abolished certainly. Well, we can have a little purging as a treat.

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            I see, the Mentally Ill Foreigners are conspiring to steal the constitution and make America into a failed state like Libya and all we have to do is to purge the weak and imbecilic race-traito- I mean anti-democratic populists and then the Republic will be restored to its former glory! Huzzah! i-love-not-thinking

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            It is counterproductive to ignore the fact that America is under attack by two foreign Sociopathic Oligarchs

            I’ll bite, who are you talking about here?

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            Why is lacking loyalty/patriotism to America your primary criticism compared to, say, committing war crimes and funding genocide?

            This just sounds like rightwing nationalism to me.

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              I NEVER said that either was a priority, you put those words in my mouth. They are two separate subjects, and both are high priority.

              I am pointing out that the three biggest influences on America right now are Putin, Musk, and Trump, and none of them are motivated by their love for this nation, perhaps the most basic characteristic that any nation expects from its leaders. We expect that our leaders will place the health of their nation above their own personal financial ambitions, and the exact opposite is true of these three jackals.

              Condemning war crimes and genocide should be a given. Of course I am against those things, and have loudly condemned the MAGA Nazi government for those atrocities. I also spoke out against the Biden administration for supporting Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians, and I have been speaking out for years about Israel’s horrific treatment of the West Bank and Gaza residents.

              It is not either/or, I can oppose all of it equally.

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                Understood. I think there’s a tendency to overestimate the influence of external actors in order to subconsciously externalize America’s problems as not-American. Fascist ideology plays on this tendency and cultivates an image of a “pure” nation that is merely being corrupted by external forces (or often an internal force that is externalized/otherized). So that’s probably one reason you’re seeing so much pushback in these replies.

                When studying US history, we see a consistent through-line of decades of imperialism, war crimes, and domestic oppression that isn’t in any way unique to Trump and can be explained almost entirely by US material interests. Given that and the fact the US is the dominant global superpower, narratives that try to assign blame to foreign actors seem mislead at best.

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                  I would normally agree, but Russia’s influence on MAGA, and especially HitlerPig himself, is well documented.

                  In 1997, Alexandr Dugin published The Foundations of Geopolitics, which outlined how Russia could achieve world dominance without war, and it has become the playbook for Russian foreign policy. It is taught at the Russian Military Academy, and Putin keeps a copy on his desk. Dugin is still a close advisor, and his daughter was a major intelligence authority until she was murdered by a car bomb that was meant for her father.

                  I suggest everyone who thinks the Russia influence is overblown to peruse the section under Content, where they will find Russia’s plan to dominate each region of the world. Under America, it reads:

                  Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke “Afro-American racists” to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics”.

                  Read the section on England, and you will recognize Brexit. Read the section on Ukraine, and you will read language that Putin has quoted directly in his justifications for invading Ukraine. It is obvious that this book is Putin’s blueprint.

                  There is also this statement:

                  The book emphasizes that Russia must spread geopolitical anti-Americanism everywhere: “the main ‘scapegoat’ will be precisely the U.S.”

                  And here is this community, doing exactly what Putin wants you to do.

                  Not only is Putin behind the rise of far right politics, you are falling right into his trap, and helping him.

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                    Damn, seems like Russia is really good at long term planning. Sounds like they’d be better at running America. I’ve been anti American before Putin was even in charge. Im a Yeltsin era hater.

                    Also, youre using a neo fascist as your source.

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                    There is also this statement:

                    The book emphasizes that Russia must spread geopolitical anti-Americanism everywhere: “the main ‘scapegoat’ will be precisely the U.S.”

                    And here is this community, doing exactly what Putin wants you to do.

                    Not only is Putin behind the rise of far right politics, you are falling right into his trap, and helping him.

                    Obviously, I don’t agree with the rest of what you said either, but this part is really egregious. The US is the global hegemon, and its crimes are innumerable but I can list as many as you like. Its power is difficult to overstate, nor its involvement in the dire state of the world at present. Obviously it gets used as a bizarre scapegoat by reactionaries in the imperial periphery and semi-periphery (e.g., blaming queerness on an American attempt to corrupt public morality), but that’s very different from correctly identifying America for its actual genocidal atrocities, coups, imperialist extraction, and so on.

                    You really are falling into fundamentally conservative traps of thinking that idealize America as some pure thing being corrupted rather than seeing the machine for what it is.

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                    Russia, and any other nation that spreads “anti-Americanism,” is absolutely justified. Its not some deep geopolitical plot, it’s just basic self defense for decades of American meddling across the globe.

                    Maybe if you didn’t want warlords and dictators everywhere, you shouldn’t have given them guns and money just because communism bad.

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                    If Putin’s goal is to take down the US, explain why shouldn’t we help him? The US is currently arming a genocide, closely supporting the genocidal military and government. For-profit prisons hold thousands, nearly a quarter of the world’s entire prisoner population is in the US. Slavery is legal, US prisoners are forced to do work for the profit of their captors. Immigrants are now allowed to be deported exiled to countries other than their origin regardless of their risk of harm, and while the raids now are more public, democrats paved the way for the current enforcement. Thousands are set to be deported to Guantanamo Bay and other places overseas. Life expectancy is going down and set to continue decreasing as public health measures are gutted and healthcare further privatized. There is not even a hint of serious action against climate change from the US. Innocent people, women, children, animals are killed every day from US made and delivered bombs.

                    What horror would you see happening if the US as it formally is now ceased to be?

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                    There is also this statement:

                    The book emphasizes that Russia must spread geopolitical anti-Americanism everywhere: “the main ‘scapegoat’ will be precisely the U.S.”
                    

                    And here is this community, doing exactly what Putin wants you to do.

                    Not only is Putin behind the rise of far right politics, you are falling right into his trap, and helping him.

                    Fuck you, if America didn’t try to fuck my country or any other country I’ll not have the anti-americanism. USA did “Putin dirty job” alone. Don’t try to shift the blame.

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        treasonous criminal enterprise who is being supported by hostile foreign governments, Sociopathic Oligarchs, and Transnational Corporations.

        That’s what America has literally always been though. There was never a time when the american government was not those things.

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          But there was time when the government could keep them in check. Now they have hoarded enough money that they can leverage their own deals with foreign nations, outside of government control.

          That’s what has changed, and it’s not an American problem, it’s a global problem. Billionaires aren’t just in America, they are everywhere, and they are deciding to usurp the typical roles that government has had in the past. Instead of government regulating them, they will regulate governments to suit their needs.

          Non-Americans are falling into the same trap that American MAGAs have fallen into - they are blaming everyone except those who are actually causing the problems: the Sociopathic Oligarchs, and their Transnational Corporations.

          You could have your wildest anti-American dreams come true, and have America erased from history, and your problems would still be there, because the problem isn’t America, it’s the out-of-control wealth hoarding around the globe. One of the biggest is Putin, and once he eliminates America, he’ll move onto every other wealthy nation.

          Quit attacking the victims of the wealthy, and attack the wealthy themselves.

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            Most of those transnational corporations are American and almost all of them, especially weighted by wealth, are heavily tied to the US government.

            I do think you have the beginning of the right idea though, because the fundamental problem is the owning class. Your errors that compromise being correct here are not realizing: The owning class has always been the fundamental problem throughout recorded history and America has always been controlled by them with only internal factional disputes “challenging” this.

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            But there was time when the government could keep them in check.

            No, America has always been the ones actively doing the evil, or propping it up for monetary gain.

            Billionaires aren’t just in America, they are everywhere,

            If this is your gripe, you need to do a little bit more studying to realize that is what America has always gone for. That is the goal, was the goal, and will continue to be the goal.

            problem isn’t America, it’s the out-of-control wealth hoarding around the glob

            Sure, but that doesn’t change the fact that America was formed with this goal in mind. White, slavery operated land ownership and the accumulation of capital is and always has been what america stood for.

            One of the biggest is Putin, and once he eliminates America,

            If you think Putin wants to destroy america for any reason beyond the fact that american imperialism is threatening his (also imperialist) nation, i dunno what to tell you.

            Quit attacking the victims of the wealthy, and attack the wealthy themselves.

            Go fuck yourself, liberal. You clearly don’t have any understanding of what it means to be a victim, or who the wealthy are.

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              I’m not happy with the way life in America is going right now, but I still wouldn’t trade it for Russian life. If Putin succeeds in sidelining America, then Europe is next.

              People like me are trying to change America for the better. We all know about the stains America has left on the world, but America has also done a lot of good for the world as well. There is a battle for America’s future, and a lot of us are hoping to take America in a new direction and redeem our nation’s mixed legacy.

              If you are cheering for HitlerPig’s success, then you are literally cheering for Nazi rule, and if it takes root here, then it will go global next.

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                Cupcake, who the fuck do you think is cheering for trump? It sure as fuck isn’t any of us. We just haven’t deluded ourselves into thinking any president was ever that different.

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                    This is wrong. From beginning to end. The US Empire is a blight on the world, it functions through brutal extraction of wealth in the Global South. The US Empire was not moving in a positive direction, tell that to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, Palestine, Cuba, Chile, everyone the US has terrorized for profit. The “aid” provided by the US comes with clauses requiring total capitulation to US capital, the US isn’t ending starvation, it creates reliance on US foodstuffs to hyper-exploit the global south.

                    Trump is not unique. Trump is not a special calamity. Trump is “special” in that he doesn’t play coy or try to hide the way the US Empire acts, he just says it and brags about it.

                    Trump both represents the US Empire and the worst people on the planet, because its the same. The world wants the US Empire to finally go the way of Rome and collapse. I am a US citizen, it’s the historic task of the US working class to finally end this genocidal settler-colony so that a more just Socialist society can take its place.

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                    This shit makes me sad. You want to be politically engaged, you want to understand the world around you, but you’ve been taught lies your whole life, and you refuse to try and break out of the political ideology you’ve been taught and accepted. So you sit here and say trump is an aberration. You call him names because that’s all you can think to do. You don’t see that trump is a symptom, not a cause. You think if you just vote correctly that somehow, the world will improve around you. But it won’t.

                    You remind me of my dad and it just makes me sad. I don’t have some glib, clever way to end this. You’ll believe what you believe, and nothing we can say will change your mind, unless you let it. Which I encourage you to try and do. Consider that maybe “communism” isn’t the dirty word you’ve been taught it is. Consider that perhaps there is a way towards a brighter future, it’s just that it won’t come from the democratic party.

                    I hope you come to a fuller understanding of the world as it actually is rather than as you wish it were, I really, truly do.

                    This comment section is just making me sad now, fuck

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                    Okay. We’re communists. This is a communist message board. Different iterations and opinions are gonna vary person to person, but broadly speaking you are on a communist message board with communist users presenting a communist take. It seems maybe you aren’t aware of that?

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                    That said, HitlerPig is far, far worse that even the worst president we’ve had in my lifetime.

                    Proof that you’re deeply unserious if you think he’s markedly worse than Dubya and the piles of Afghan and Iraqi bodies he left behind, not to mention all the illegal detention in Guantanamo Bay and the ”attack on democracy” in your own terms via thing like the Patriot Act.

                    HitlerPig is a cringe-ass nickname too even by lib Trump name standards.

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                    No, the problem with this discussion is that you don’t have any understanding of historical or material dialectics. You’re pure liberal ideology, and wishful thinking about the hopes and dreams of the world. So fucking chauvinistic that you can’t even imagine that the world doesn’t want america to be better, they want us to go away.

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        I don’t blame most Americans, I know most aren’t straight up fascists, even Trump voters mostly aren’t evil or anything. But you don’t have to say he’s a traitor or blame ‘scary foreigners’, looking at the history of the US Trump is extremely American, just a bit more intensely than we’ve had in a while. And he is supported by US corporations, the groups that the US truly represents.

        The US has never represented the average mass of people, for most of the last 300 years the majority of people in the US couldn’t even vote. And with voter suppression and propaganda it’s still essentially true. Trump/MAGA/fascism is a natural consequence of the wealthy ownership of the productive forces and nearly all media of the US.

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          Again, it is counterproductive to ignore the influence that Putin has on Trump, and the rise of far-right/ white supremacy around the world. Until that relationship is properly addressed, America’s issues will not be resolved, and the far right will continue to grow, here and around the world.

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            No, its the productive thing to do. We’ve seen what being a paranoid nationalist does to people and its not productive at least in a doing something good kind of productivity

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            The far right growing gave you Trump, not the other way around. You have basic causd and effect reversed. The US was already white supremacist and no Putin didn’t do that.

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                See you’ve been arguing all morning about how great and cool america is and its only done a few teeny tiny little genocides as an oopsie woopsie, but now you totally cede the idea that america was always white supremacist and putin didn’t do it.

                pure ideology. that history degree really didn’t do you any favors

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                  I have not been arguing that. America is a fucking mess right now, and I’m afraid that it may be the end for it.

                  I have said before that I have a history degree, and also that I am politically independent, so nobody is more aware of America’s problematic history, and all my life I have struggled to reconcile that history with my personal morality. I honestly remember the moment as a kid in school, when I thought about the slaves, and the Indians, and then about how America was supposed to be so great after doing all those terrible things. I have recognized our flaws from a very early age.

                  However, I have faith in the original concept of America as a nation where all people can be free and equal. I am well aware that we have violated those tenets routinely, but I have lived my life advocating for political issues that would make America adhere to the philosophy of freedom under which we were founded. So while we may act as reprehensibly as some of the worst nations on the planet, I naively optimistic that we will eventually take out nation back, and force it to follow the positive philosophy that is supposed to be our foundation.

                  I do not defend America’s problems, but I am hoping for America’s redemption.

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                    What dogshit diploma mill was willing to give your ass a degree? Your understanding of history is worse than the average layperson .

                    politically independent

                    What does that even mean? Independent of fucking what? You seem like a bog standard liberal western supremacist

                    so nobody is more aware of America’s problematic history

                    Except the victims of it, you chauvinist fuck.

                    all my life I have struggled to reconcile that history with my personal morality.

                    Oh, so you started with the conclusion that America was morale and worked backwards from there to justify it.

                    However, I have faith in the original concept of America as a nation where all people can be free and equal

                    Literal fucking slavery, my dude. And indigenous genocide.

                    the philosophy of freedom under which we were founded

                    Literal, owning humans as property, chattel fucking slavery.

                    force it to follow the positive philosophy that is supposed to be our foundation.

                    White supremacy, slavery, and imperial conquest.

                    I do not defend America’s problems

                    Yes actually, you do, constantly. To the point of fascism.

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                    America was never good. There is nothing to redeem. These ideals were always bullshit and you should know that. Your history degree doesn’t mean you know more than everyone else. First off, I know for a fact there are other history degree havers in your replies from Hexbear and secondly its A Degree, are you a professor of history? Have you been busting your ass as a grad student doing genuine research? Or did you just go to college and get a history degree cause doing the bare minimum for a history degree doesn’t mean you know a fucking thing. I’ve run circles around history and English graduates before cause unless you stick it out to Wasting Your Time In Academia levels you don’t learn as much as you think. So far the only citation you made was from a fascist and you haven’t engaged in a single rebuttal head on. I think maybe you haven’t been understanding where you are and that you’ve been speaking to communists and that had you confused and angry. But fr, you really really aren’t as smart as you think you are. Don’t tell me you have a history degree and therefore I should think you know what you’re talking about. Prove it and link some sources. We will read them.

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                    I am politically independent, so nobody is more aware of America’s problematic history,

                    Someone who proudly declares they vote for the lesser evil does not understand America’s problematic history or they would understand how the Democrats were as important to Trump’s success as the Republicans.

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                    I have not been arguing that. America is a fucking mess right now, and I’m afraid that it may be the end for it.

                    Good!

                    […], I naively optimistic that we will eventually take out nation back, and force it to follow the positive philosophy that is supposed to be our foundation.

                    what’s needed is to take your nation out back and put it down like the rabid dog it is

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                    The original concept of America was an agreement by a bunch of landlords, none of whom had any intention of extending citizenship to women or African Americans or indigenous people. The Constitution was designed to enshrine the colonial oligarchy at every level.

                    Where is the evidence for this “positive philosophy”? Most of us grow up and realize it was a fairy tale that we were indoctrinated with. The few positive parts of American history were accidents, rather than intentions.

                    It was 166 years ago that one of the rare morally upstanding figures in America said “I was mistaken in thinking that America might be redeemed without much bloodshed”.

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                    so nobody is more aware of America’s problematic history

                    lmfao the chauvinism knows no bounds

                    The “original concept of america” was a slave driven machine for land owners to accumulate wealth. There were never any morals or high ideas. Your history degree is state-sponsored brainwashing drivel. I have never met a person less informed than you.

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                  I agree that HitlerPig didn’t cause White Supremacy, he’s just using it to build support.

                  I don’t understand how that is abandonment of the argument that HitlerPig is the worst president in American history, and an existential threat to America and a free world.

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                    You’re writing the same dumb comments so many places you’ve actually confused yourself. The comment I replied to wasn’t about Trump being “the worst president” (though I’ve replied to that claim elsewhere and you’ve similarly chickened out there).

                    This was your comment:

                    Again, it is counterproductive to ignore the influence that Putin has on Trump, and the rise of far-right/ white supremacy around the world. Until that relationship is properly addressed, America’s issues will not be resolved, and the far right will continue to grow, here and around the world.

                    In other words, I told you that you were wrong. Core premise is wrong. You’re confusing symptoms of a disease with its causes. And at the same time you are doing this, you are downplaying the actual root causes of white supremacy in this very thread (anti-blackness rooted in slavery, the development of American capitalism) using literal white supremacist talking points.

                    Since we are two comments deep and you can’t even follow your own threads I will assume you don’t even respect your own opinions enough to make any attempt to defend them. You should learn how to shut your yapper before people figure you out.

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            The US government and corporations fund right-wing groups and propaganda worldwide in dollar amounts incomparable to any other country. In direct material terms, what has Putin done to increase the rise of the far-right? Wealthy people in Russia may benefit from far-right ideologies and help push them but the US is the primary driver of the capitalist aligned far-right and imperialism in the world. The US doesn’t need a rival like Russia to push the far-right narrative, I have seen it all my life pushed endlessly by US organizations and average Americans. Russia and China are the historic scapegoats to shift the blame from the domestic groups pushing fascist ideals and discontent.

            If I were to view Putin or Russia in general as having a large influence on the rise of right-wing politics in the US, what would you suggest be done about it? In what way would this change my course of action as a communist or socialist?

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              https://lemm.ee/comment/21506245

              This is what Putin is doing, and he is absolutely behind the rise of far-right politics. Just because he didn’t invent white supremacy doesn’t mean he isn’t fanning the flames and using to his advantage.

              What to do about it? At this point, Americans have to be focused on taking back our nation from the MAGA Nazis, and then we can deal with everything else. I’ve even put my own personal political issues (Universal Health Care, Free College Education, etc., mostly Socialist stuff) on the back burner because defeating MAGA is the priority. After that we can reconfigure America to benefit the people and not the Corporatists.

              As for Putin, short of war, I’m not sure, frankly. I’d rather not have a World War to crush Russia once and for all. Putin is old, supposedly sick, so maybe he’ll solve the problem for us. Then perhaps we can intervene in the resulting chaos.

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                This is what Putin is doing, and he is absolutely behind the rise of far-right politics.

                This is Nazi Judeo-Bolshervick conspiracy repackaging for American liberal-fascists.

                Then perhaps we can intervene in the resulting chaos.

                Chauvinist fuck. Can you American fascists stop meddling in other countries?

                Putin is old, supposedly sick, so maybe he’ll solve the problem for us.

                I refuse to believe there is any university that would give someone so consumed by Great Man Theory bullshit a degree in history.

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                The US government and corporations fund right-wing groups and propaganda worldwide in dollar amounts incomparable to any other country.

                I love how you so conveniently ignored this part.