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  • happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I was reading A Christmas Carol again and I think Ebeneezer Scrooge might actually be the bad guy? Like I thought he was good because he lives in a mansion and can sleep comfortably at night. The ghosts are clearly the bad guys because they’re trespassing and violating his castle doctrine to show him all the non-woke things he did. It kinda reminds me of cancel culture and how saying the N-word a few times results in a bunch of social media ghosts bringing that up in future arguments. I used to read that and want to shoot the ghosts with the guns under my pillow which Scrooge would have done if I wrote the book. But I guess he’s supposed to be the bad guy because they’re actually showing him consequences of bad things he does? Like Tiny Tim isn’t supposed to die because he can’t afford health insurance?

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Judge Dredd is a great comic ruined by chuds with no media literacy.

    Although this guy somehow also thinks the Galactic Empire were the good guys, so definitely extra high concentrations of Hitler particles.

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    Okay, so the Judge Dredd thing is boilerplate fash stuff, he fails to get the satirizing, but I’m more perplexed with his take on Star Wars. It’s very explicit throughout the series that there’s a seedy criminal underworld in the galaxy that the empire is at best unable to contain meaningfully, at worst is actively utilizing when convenient. Jabba’s operation isn’t exactly a secret yet the empire clearly lets it slide. How the hell does he get “peace and justice” out of that?

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      It’s not even an organic take to have!

      Nothing the Empire does is good!

      They’re openly shown to execute civilians, oppress damn near everyone and even BLOW UP AN ENTIRE PLANET WITH PLANS TO KEEP DOING IT!

      The only way you walk out of Star Wars thinking that the Empire are good guys is if you are a literal fascist!

      • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        Of course they’re horrible. That’s the fascist mentality, a little genocide is worth it to make the streets clean and the trains run on time. But the empire didn’t keep the streets clean, they were horrible at it. This dude just sees someone with a badge cracking skulls and automatically assumes that means crime and injustice aren’t a problem.

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          There’s also a shitload of crime in Mega-City One and the fascist enforcers who hold all the legal power are pretty much all shown to be massively corrupt, so lol and also lmao.

          • fox [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            Dredd is the One Good Cop, which is why his rookie partner is allowed to extra-legally psychically rip a dude apart for information and why it’s totally fine to engage in high explosive firefights in a densely crowded apartment building because someone is manufacturing narcotics.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Adults who derive their morality from legality will forever be children to me

      Some 20-30 year old manchild is gonna tell me they think “the law was a solid rock in a sea of chaos” in defense of a piece of media which was mocking all of that with a straight face?

      Then again, he is a self-admitted conservative, maybe it should be more impressive he reads things that aren’t InfoWars or gun fetishist magazines

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    This is why you can not under any circumstances make fascists look cool in your art.

    If you make fascists look cool and enjoyable to ride along with, people will want to imitate them and will absorb every complaint you have about them into their identity.

    Any critique of fascists must start with the fascists being absolute clowns. They should not be “cool”.

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      It sucks because I actually like having cool villains in my fiction. It can make for visually interesting and exciting conflicts, or make the evil instantly recognizable. Ngl I really like the look of the empire in star wars, but I hate that it’s only damn filthy tankies (and those neo marxists taking over universities ofc) who seem to be interested in critically analyzing media and can separate interesting fictional aesthetic from, yknow, actually supporting fascist ideas.

      The libs/chuds ( same-picture ) can’t be trusted to not slobber on even fictional boots

      • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        You can absolutely have a ferocious, scary fash villain. Fascists don’t need to literally be Mr. Bean to be a clown. Have them obsessed with something that would otherwise be benign. Have them feel some lack from a failed purity test (i.e. being It*lian and feeling like you’re not white) rot their soul from the inside and torture them. Maybe a powerful mage in an all black military uniform who’s self-conscious about going bald. A skinhead with a legendary weapon who shaves their teeth until they’re all sharp and gets an infection of the mouth. A powerful tycoon whose project is a natural order that is obviously based on fictitious pretenses who has fooled an entire army who refuse to get out of Plato’s cave. An elusive, beloved bard who conditions victims to believe that society is full of drones and his victims can do nothing but repeat what the bard has said uncritically. You can give a villain a fatal flaw allegorical to being fash that both makes them look like a clown and doesn’t preclude them from being aesthetic.

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        Nah, in real life the villans are ridiculous and lame.
        Cool villains are a fantasy about the world being more just. What if the suffering you experience isn’t from some dentists kid who inherent your house but some cool evil guy. Then your struggle would be noble.

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          That’s true, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having a bit of unrealistic fiction here and there, as long as you can separate the exaggerated & escapist nature of that fiction from reality. For a not insignificant number of people their view of “evil” is based entirely on fiction (eg that “trump is voldemort” shit).

          Personally I enjoy exploding space nazis wearing cool looking power armor in ridiculous fictional battles, while also acknowledging that 99% of the time the perpetrators of cruelty are the most milquetoast, spineless, banal, and evil pieces of shit in existence - who also happen to deserve the pit all the same.

          Sometimes it’s nice to have that escapist fantasy of incinerating nazi cyborgs, as long as it doesn’t prevent you from doing good in real life of course.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      I’ve been told many times that chuds will always idolize the nazis in fiction, but I don’t ever see chuds idolize the nazis in The Producers. the-more-you-know

  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    whenever a guy like this is posted here, I’m always like “Oh yeah, this guy is obviously doing a bit, why are people here falling for satire so blatant?” and then keep reading and it turns out that the person is not, in fact, doing a bit

    for every person here who pokes fun at our inability to see when people are being satirical, there’s a guy on reddit who not only thinks that the Empire in Star Wars were the good guys. And not even in an edgy way - he literally thinks that the intention of the films was to show that the rebels were bad and the Empire is good

  • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]@hexbear.net
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    Wait there’s a thread going on about 2000AD and nobody told me, the inventor of 2000AD Drokkposting?

    2000AD LITERALLY DEPICTED THE EXECUTION OF MARGARET THATCHER IN THE FIRST ISSUE! IT’S ALWAYS BEEN LEFTIST!

  • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Such is the wages of “these are the bad guys, but let’s make them as appealingly awesome and epic as possible” storytelling. yea