• Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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      I really thought we were going to get to the end and have a “wait, im american, this is america”. Because the places I know that have infrastructure literally collapsing are all in the US. I can think of a parking garage, an apartment/condo building, and an interstate off the top of my head.

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      Idk, comrade. You’re saying that a post regarding the inferiority of a nonwestern country posted on a notoriously racist website is racist? Have you ever considered that China bad?

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      Amazing how hexbear users make themselves known. Also, Chinese isn’t a race or ethnicity, its a nationality. Uyghur is a ethnicity for example.

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        Ah yes, it’s really horrible when someone correctly calls out racism as being racism.

        And it’s even worse when it’s done by a hexbear user.

        Also, fuck you and everything you believe in.

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          jesus christ, is there a way to do a built-in client side tagging system like RES for reddit-logo so I can tag racists/fascists/libs/same-picture or would this need to be a browser extension?

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          No, it’s only bad when someone calls something racism when it’s not racism. It’s a false alarm, it whitewashes actual racism. Tell me, is what the CCP is doing to the Uyghur people racist?

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            The premise of the joke is that they’re inferior…

            Oh hey I saw you yesterday on our instance. You’re the fascist who was doing holocaust denial. Wild they removed your comment and didn’t ban you. Wouldn’t have been my call. Can I suggest you follow your leader?

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            The CPC isn’t genociding the Uyghurs Adrian Zenz, and you wouldn’t give a crap even if they were. This is nothing but a convenient gotcha for you, you don’t know a single Uyghur person. Don’t know their names, their struggles, even their language, much less the language of the people you claim are genociding them. Which is why you’re an intellectual hostage to the fabrications of a religious whackjob.

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                Its called the CCP in English.

                It’s called the CPC in English by China, and has been the whole time. Chinese people, including their government, also publish in English.

                Folks that say CCP are demonstrating one of two things:

                1. They know better but want to play up little cold war word games in their favor.

                2. They don’t know better and got easily propagandized by the former. Most people are like this.

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs Starts on the 4th paragraph.

                lol. lmao.

                Follow your sources and compare them to the claims.

                Don’t need to know hebrew to know the holocaust was bad.

                Neat antisemitism. The holocaust was carried out against people who spoke a variety of languages, including Germanic and Slavic languages, Yiddish, etc. Hebrew was often limited to specific religious events. Jewish people spoke the languages of the societies they were part of.

                The corrolary, if you still wanted to make one, would be, “you don’t have to speak Polish/German/Ukrainian/Russian/some baltic languages to know the holocaust was bad”.

                Still wouldn’t fit, though, because the holocaust is extraordinarily well-evidenced, well-established fact. In contrast, the claims made about the treatment of Uyghurs are an active matter with dubious characters with clear anti-China interests making most of the claims and with very little evidence. It is germane to point out that most roads lead to a casually antisemitic anticommunist (literally part of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation) that can’t speak or read Chinese, let alone Uyghur. That this guy is who is the trusted source for the ever-escalating but poorly-evidenced claims, including and up to genocide.

          • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            Oh wow, the little baby is learning to take our legitimate points about his holocaust denial and throw ghem back at us in a way that is literally continuing to do the exact same shit proving that he in fact learned absolutely fucking nothing

            All China and the CPC did to the Uighurs was liberate them from a small group of reactionary religious extremists who had locally outlawed dancing, alcohol consumption among others repression due to the outside influence of amerikkka and Saudi Arabia pushing Wahhabism which itself was an actual cultural genocide of the Uighur culture

            You can cry crocodile tears for the Uighurs all you like but it doesn’t change the facts and you don’t know dick about the facts

            Uighurs are Muslim but traditionally they’re not particularly conservative aside from not eating pork; alcohol consumption had never been prohibited in Xinjiang before this

            The reactionary Western backed leaders are the ones trying to change Uighur culture, all China is doing is protecting the Uighurs and their culture from outside agitation by reactionary forces

            What China has done in Xinjiang is good just like it was good when they liberated Tibet, just like it would be good if we were to do the same to reactionary Christians in this country

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        Lmao ten years ago you guys were saying this about islamophobia.

        Race doesn’t exist, it’s a social construct. Racism, however, definitely exists (as does sophistry).

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        Also, Chinese isn’t a race or ethnicity, its a nationality. Uyghur is a ethnicity for example.

        Oh fuck off.

        You would recognise that it’s racism if it were about Nigerians or some shit:

        • Be Nigerian

        • Get hunted by a warlord before breakfast

        • Get chased by muslim jihadists

        • Blah blah blah

        The FIRST thing you would recognise is that it’s being racist. Regardless of the fact that it says “Be Nigerian which is a nationality not a race”.

        Stop being such a pathetic defender of racism, just because it’s targeted at a country you dislike. It makes you a massive loser.

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          You would recognise that it’s racism if

          We were introduced to this person on our own instance yesterday by way of a frothing ‘ARG! TANKIES!’ where they did the old ‘double genocide’ thing at us. I checked their profile and it seemed like they made an account to agree with a guy praising Sweedish fascists for doing a Koran book burning.

          I don’t think they would recognize that as racism, or at least wouldn’t disagree

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          Are you serious? Being Chinese just means you are from China. Unless you are dumb enough to think everyone from China is the same ethnicity, your content makes no sense.

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          Thats not how that works. Is American a race? Is racist a race? Is do-gooder a race? Is big metal fan a race?

          You can put all those after “be” and itll still make sense because they are all nouns.

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        Uyghur is a ethnicity for example.

        Not if the CCP has anything to say about it

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      As shit as the US is, it doesn’t have re-education camps and it did its genociding in the relatively distant past.

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        How about instead of proving your point by seeing if a wikipedia article exists with your search term as its title, you actually try to book a trip from one major city to another and see what that looks like

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          1. I have taken an Amtrak train between Houston and Dallas and it sucked like all passenger rail sucks. Yes, even Japanese passenger rail sucks.

          2. Take the fucking L.

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            Congratulations on destroying my hyperbolous statement by being hyper literal and proving my overall point that commuter rail in the US is garbage that doesn’t factor into what people actually use on a day to day basis

            “I took a train one time” walter-breakdown

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            Bruh Amtrak sucks because there’s extremely low rail density in this country generally and they don’t own any of their own tracks, so the (relatively) few trains that they do run are always getting waylaid by freight trains. Also maintenance requirements for rail companies is incredibly lax, which results in poorly maintained tracks, which limits the trains’ speeds. All of this is a simple public investment problem.

            Really now, you can’t come in here with complete ignorance of why a thing is the way it is and say authoritatively that it all sucks, even in countries I’m 100% positive you’ve never been to. All generalized from a single personal anecdote.

            I mean I guess you can, you did just do that, but you really shouldn’t. It makes you sound foolish.

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            I have no idea what your standards are if you think Japanese commuter rail sucks.

            I remember is was WORLD NEWS when a train was over a minute late. Meanwhile, the one time I tried Washington DC’s commuter rail (which I hear is one of the better US ones?), it was a little over 5 minutes behind schedule.

            Not to mention, I didn’t feel the need to shower after riding the Japan trains (not something I can say for any American train I’ve taken).

            Edit: fixing typo (‘an’ -> ‘any’ in my last sentence)

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              It so fucking crowded its ridiculous. Im a dude and I still felt like I was getting molested.

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                Yeah, if you’re not used to it, I can see that being a problem. I didn’t take the trains during the major commute hours, so I probably dodged that experience on my own trips around. Not sure how I would have taken it, but yeah, I probably wouldn’t have enjoyed the experience either (probably typical American opinion on that though).

                That said, it definitely feels like one of those “no one drives in Los Angeles; there’s just too much traffic” kind of situations.

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            Japanese passenger rail, by which assume you mean the slower trains and not shinkansen (because shinkansen is in another world of superior experience), is comfy as fuck and reasonably priced. As someone who rode Amtrak, you know neither of those are the case in the US.

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              It so fucking crowded its ridiculous. Im a dude and I still felt like I was getting molested.

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                It was crowded on Japanese intercity commuter rail? Was this a JR Line or a city metro line? Were you on peak hours?

                I’ve been on hundreds of trains in Japan and the only time I remember it being too crowded to move are the ones early in the morning and the ones at rush hour.

                They also get a little crowded in inner cities on Friday and Saturday nights, but you know what? They’re great. They’re almost never late, they’re comfortable, and they get you where you’re going. Cheap too. I remember going from Narita to Shinjuku (40 something miles) for around 2700 yen (like $24).

                The best trains I’ve used ever are actually in China, unless the shinkansen in Japan counts. The shinkansen is the best transportation I’ve ever experienced. Surreal levels of comfort and smoothness.

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              Not taking that person’s side, but they did say their experience sucked. I think their point is that all transport sucks (not true at all).

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                I can’t believe you’re still underlining my point after I pointed out that’s what you’re doing with observations like this

                Cool. Thank you I guess. You still go in the gulag.

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                you keep proving them right

                yeah america has uniquely bad commuter rail for it’s level of wealth

                hell, america has uniquely bad commuter rail for it’s level of rail development

                it absolutely didn’t have to be the case. the USA was an industrial colossus and then made the political decision to have shitty rail. it’s not alone in that mistake. but it now holds onto it for stupid ideological reasons to the point that it’s now sabotaging it’s freight rail as well.

                jesus just take the L

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            even Japanese passenger rail sucks

            wow, you probably haven’t even seen a train IRL

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        Honestly fair point. America does have commuter rail. I would certainly say that compared to other countries of equal GDP it is much worse, but there is indeed commuter rail in America.

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    fake: op claims to be Chinese but uses the Austrian flag gay: op narrowly avoids getting swallowed