• John Richard@lemmy.worldEnglish
      24·
      4 days ago

      Embrace, extend, and extinguish. They literally documented it as being their strategy. Now the justice department is chasing Google who despite being bad, at least provides enough source code where people have created privacy-focused derivatives of Android. I’d much rather see them go after Microsoft first but the government relies on Microsoft, and Microsoft relies on our tax dollars going to the government so they can get them.

      • rottingleaf@lemmy.world
        13·
        4 days ago

        Kill Google, kill Apple, kill Meta, kill Amazon. I’m not sure whether killing Apple is necessary - despite their problems, they at least have an honest business model (of profiting off a cult). I think yes, split them too.

        • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
          6·
          4 days ago

          I’m not sure whether killing Apple is necessary

          They’ve taken to designing unrepariable e-waste garbage. let em burn

          • rottingleaf@lemmy.world
            2·
            3 days ago

            Decided then.

            And that round building of theirs should be demolished, only Apple fans can think it looks futuristic.

              • rottingleaf@lemmy.world
                2·
                3 days ago

                I guess as a homeless shelter it’d be fine. There’s some value in all the glassy parts too - hydroponics would combine well aesthetically with a shelter.

                However, the space inside it should be treated carefully, or it can turn into something similar to Soviet micro-districts in the criminal sense.

                Again, maybe making it some kind of a huge pond and releasing fish there is a good idea? I dunno.

                • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
                  2·
                  3 days ago

                  or it can turn into something similar to Soviet micro-districts

                  I think you’re on to a great start for a new post apoc Sci Fi novel

        • Zink@programming.dev
          21·
          4 days ago

          I’m not going to defend Apple against being broken up, but those other companies are on a whole different level when it comes to invasion of privacy.

      • Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz
        2·
        4 days ago

        I don’t really understand how Embrace, Extend, Extinguish is relevant to this, would you mind explaining?

        • John Richard@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          4 days ago

          Since Satya Nadella became CEO, Microsoft has advertised itself as a pro-opensource company despite never open sourcing its primary consumer-facing products like Windows & Edge. This initially attracted a lot of open source developers that Microsoft gladly hired, to turn around and turn their OS into a spyware organization.

          Microsoft learned that if they collected a bunch of data and shared it with the intelligence agencies, while making their OS a telemetry warehouse that tracks nearly everything you do, then they’d be able to attract and onboard the entire US government while making it nearly impossible for them to switch away in the future. At this point forensic companies aren’t shy that Windows is the worst choice for privacy.

  • asteriskeverything@lemmy.world
    1111·
    4 days ago

    Bitch I can’t even find basic settings cuz they are so hidden in sub menus

    I’m no programmer or UX designer but I can imagine what a mess things are on the dev side

    • superkret@feddit.org
      99·
      4 days ago

      As an admin it gets so much worse. Twice a year your admin portal gets renamed, redesigned, merged with and/or split from another one, or removed, and all those changes are done halfway.
      Which means some settings are only on the old version and others only on the new. Then the old one is discontinued even though the new one doesn’t have all its functions, yet.
      So you completely rely on Powershell. But wait, there’s 2 incompatible versions of it now.

      I’m currently thinking about a career change, after reading in Microsoft’s official documentation that you need to install the new version of Powershell, import the beta version of several commandlets and then run a long script provided by them, only to keep every user on your org from creating their own Teams teams.
      And their newest feature is allowing every user to put in their credit card info and buy MS products on the company domain without running it by IT. It’s called “self service”, enabled by default, and you have to click on a slider to disable it individually for every. single. product. Microsoft. offers.

      • themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works
        35·
        4 days ago

        Jesus Christ.

        I’ve been doing linux admin and honestly I haven’t been looking back. My breaking point was Microsoft pushing a kb that rebooted domain controllers for no reason.

        • superkret@feddit.org
          27·
          4 days ago

          I still remember the update that sent domain controllers into a bootloop.
          That was fun!

          And the one that bluescreened all Windows servers.
          No, the other one!

          Oh, and the one that did an in-place-upgrade by itself, then locked your server cause it wasn’t licensed for the new OS version.

          • themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works
            9·
            4 days ago

            I love how this doesn’t even begin to cover bad kbs ms pushed out. The fact that windows admins think testing updates before deploying them is a routine operation that should always be done boggles my mind.

          • lud@lemm.ee
            4·
            4 days ago

            Oh, and the one that did an in-place-upgrade by itself, then locked your server cause it wasn’t licensed for the new OS version.

            Wasn’t that primarily an issue with a third party software? And the server shouldn’t be locked by now since I believe you get a trial period of a few months. Our servers didn’t upgrade to 2025 but we use WSUS.

            Or are you talking about something older?

            • superkret@feddit.org
              10·
              4 days ago

              The third party software did exactly what it was designed to do:
              Push security updates automatically, while holding back feature updates for testing.
              This is standard operating procedure. Security updates are not supposed to change anything about how a server works, so the risk of breakage is very low.
              And they need to be installed as fast as possible, to patch holes that are now known to every attacker.

              Microsoft were the ones who pushed out a new Server OS installation and labelled it as security update.

        • nicky7@lemmy.ml
          1·
          4 days ago

          I’m shopping for an MSP that is Linux-centric. 70 workstations and a handful of servers but I will drop MS in a heartbeat if I had the right support to fall back on.

      • Laser@feddit.org
        15·
        4 days ago

        And their newest feature is allowing every user to put in their credit card info and buy MS products on the company domain without running it by IT. It’s called “self service”, enabled by default, and you have to click on a slider to disable it individually for every. single. product. Microsoft. offers.

        LMAO that is a special kind of pathetic

        • superkret@feddit.org
          12·
          4 days ago

          It’s maddening, cause it’s so blindingly obvious what went on in their minds when they implemented it that way.
          “If just 0.1% of the users do that, it’ll make us $XX million. Can you design a popup for it that we can show all users when they open Teams?”

          It tells me as an admin that the software I manage as my career isn’t designed to be useful anymore. It’s only designed to extract the maximum amount of money.
          It also tells me it’s time to get off this ride, cause Microsoft is evidently pushing towards a future where they administer the system, not me.

        • superkret@feddit.org
          2·
          4 days ago

          Middle management building a shadow IT. They’ll have their own company credit card for their department.

    • GHiLA@sh.itjust.works
      20·
      4 days ago

      In the case of marketing, it’s just considered an opinion, mostly because if anything like that is ever put forth to a Judge, there’s 900 odd ways to loophole it.

      “We meant our assholes, your honor; as open as they come.”

      “We meant uhm… accepting.”

    • deaf_fish@lemm.ee
      16·
      4 days ago

      A probably a bit political for this topic, but most companies are allowed to lie about most things. Only a few things that they’re not allowed to lie about.

      • PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee
        9·
        4 days ago

        and for those few things they’re not allowed to lie about they pull out every trick in the book to come as close to lying as possible without outright doing it.

    • ultranaut@lemmy.world
      8·
      4 days ago

      Their official marketing is to call Windows 11 “the most secure version of Windows ever” or something along those lines. They definitely use “the most secure” in their marketing, but I think they do it in a way where it is only in reference to previous consumer versions of Windows if you actually parse out what is being said.

    • RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world
      4·
      4 days ago

      Right after that slide the guy is talking about how Microsoft is “committed to remaining the most reliable and secure platform”…

      Yeah they’re all full of shit

  • stinky@redlemmy.comEnglish
    381·
    4 days ago

    Sometimes the elites poke fun at us with obviously untrue, absurd statements. It’s the equivalent of grabbing someone’s fist, pushing it in their face, and saying “stop punching yourself”.

  • N3Cr0@lemmy.world
    10·
    3 days ago

    I skipped briefly through the entire video and everything I’ve heard and seen was absolute bullshit bingo.

  • hperrin@lemmy.world
    5·
    3 days ago

    Guys, come on. They clearly meant it in terms of security.

    “Come on in, hackers, we’re always open.”

    • Lord Wiggle@lemmy.world
      22·
      4 days ago

      Most open for frustration. Most open for ads. Most open for taking away control from the user.

      Trust me, in a few years windows will be a monthly subscription, still filled with ads and no control over your own pc. Windows 10 will turn to a yearly subscription already. 30 dollars per year per pc for security updates. Office is already subscription based. Companies smell money, want to turn everything to a subscription.

      • Jesus_666@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        4 days ago

        Windows 360¹ will cost 30 bucks a year (adjusted for inflation) and will automatically upgrade you to the latest version of Windows as soon as it comes out. Additional benefits include improved security by blocking non-Store software and having your OS settings managed by Microsoft – Windows 360 will even automatically restore them if they should end up getting changed, e.g. if Recall somehow ends up disabled.

        ¹ Not to be confused with Windows 365, which is an entirely different thing.

        • Lord Wiggle@lemmy.world
          6·
          4 days ago

          So nice of them to manage my settings, even restore them when I changed any. Blocking non-store software is also great, forcing people to use the store is something Apple has done forever and totally doesn’t create a monopoly position and never restricts access or anything…

          Paying money to give them total control. Are you fucking kidding me. They can shove an entire mid-tower pc case up their asses, lube is only on a subscription base available (1 drop of lube for just 7,99 per month, or 3 drops for a premium subscription of just 18,99 per month!)

          These days I’d say Microsoft is getting even worse then Apple with extorting their customers.

      • Irelephant@lemm.ee
        21·
        4 days ago

        I doubt microsoft will force consumers to pay, but that could happen to business.

        edit: italics instead of bold.