local Hexbear confounded by process of time moving forward, people referring to games that came out several years before they were born as “retro”
just got to embrace the future 😎 360 is so old now
I looked forward to weekend at my Dad’s because his roommate had an Atari 800.
So you can all shut the fuck up and kindly step off my lawn.
Hm, feel like we need one more gen til the 360 is “retro/vintage”, feels too recent still for those monikers.
Like for the Original Xbox it feels right, but 360’s too new imo.
Tony Hawk Underground came out 21 years ago
And it was on the original xbox, not the 360
I dont feel like anyone waited till the GB/GBC was 20 years old before it was considered retro.
Every xbox since the Xbox one has basically been the same Xbox. Even the switch is basically just a super gameboy.
The meaning of “retro” got frozen at the 2D/3D transition for quite a while, but it’s long past time to move to a new definition: a console becomes retro when they sunset the online connectivity
I think two decades old is plenty retro
The Nintendo New 3DS in shambles.
“Retro” just means “it happened before I was old enough to enjoy it”.
Just like “old” means “anyone older than me”.
Maybe a more objective measure is “if it is older than people who are now adults, it’s retro”.
Plus that will definitely survive as a definition after they start sunsetting consoles after 3 goddamn years
I am the ancient seer on top of the mountain that played Final Fantasy 1 when it was first localized.
Final Fantasy is a 1987 role-playing video game developed and published by Square.
Yep.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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ooOOoOoh I’m younger than TES Oblivion oOOooh)Fuckin Eric sparrow stealing my helicopter roof gap footage
It always confused me how he made that work if you didn’t design your character to look like Eric Sparrow.
Didn’t he steal your footage then go back and steal your spot for his own video? so I guess he wasn’t a complete coward, he did actually still do the gap. no badass helicopter though
When the video premiers and you first hear about Eric Sparrows vile deeds the guy who tells you about the part mentions it is over a helicopter.
guess he just strategicly rendered the video in 240p
Bro doesn’t even use a Sony vx1000 the official camera for skate videos
240p would be the highest resolution skate video ever in 2003
That guy was the best game villain ever. I still remember Eric Sparrows punchable ass face!
Nah man. Let him know this is the way. No always online. No microtransactions in EVERYTHING. We need to go back
I want game manuals back
Oh yeah, I’d devour those whenever I was waiting for my turn on the TV. Used to be helpful shit in there, too
I’d read them in the car on the way home from the local non chain video rental store. I was never allowed to rent mortal kombat though
I convinced my parents to get me the Gameboy game when I was way too young, 9 or 10, by convincing them it was in just green and black, you couldn’t see any gore because it was such shitty graphics lmao
Hey I did the same thing for mortal kombat 2 on Gameboy pocket. I can still hear all those sound effects in my head
Play Tunic!
burnout 3 is probably in my top 10 games of all time
that was the one where there was a mode where you had to basically do vehicular terrorism, causing as much damage as possible in a single accident right?
that slapped, i wonder how many people used the training for their exit
It’s in my top 5.
Def my fave racing game
Almost perfect soundtrack too.
the first THUG game felt old during the 360’s time, that shit is hard retro by now.
Introduce them to SSX3. I’ve been chasing that high ever since
i keep reading sex instead of SSX sorry folks
SEX 3? I hadn’t even heard about SEX 2!
Yeah I do the same. I have to double check I’m not accidentally writing sex
I am the one and only enjoyer of the ssx reboot and I will defend that game until the end of days. Same goes for the dmc reboot
Never tried it. Stopped after whatever came after SSX3, it just didn’t feel right. Whenever I tried anything at a friends it also just didn’t do it for me
I still emulate it on my phone today
Why did they stop giving us whole mountains with cool shortcuts and crazy parks that weren’t too crazy?
Okay, we’re going to have to introduce better periodization for retro games.
just spitballing here
the coin op 80s
the gay nineties
the brown 2000s
There are three major periods of gaming:
Retro gaming: This is everything before the N64/PS1. Gaming was dominated by arcades, and third spaces with games existed. 3d didn’t really exist yet. PC gaming was for basement neckbeards. Console gaming was for bratty kids and in a way was just portable arcades with inferior graphics. Handhelds were a joke. Normal people just played arcades. Platformers everywhere.
Modern gaming: This is everything after the N64/PS1. Arcades no longer exist except as nostalgia for gen xers. Multiplayer is dominated by matchmaking. 3d is the norm. Microtransactions, lootboxes, gachas, and other addictive trash is everywhere. PC gaming is for obnoxious g*mers. Console and handhelds are mostly respected. Mobile gaming is trash. Third-person shooters with crafting everywhere.
Transitional gaming: This is gaming circa N64/PS1 era with PC gaming a little before that. Arcades were ceding ground, but various genres (fighting games, rail shooters, DDR) still held strong. PC games and console games no longer had to exist within the shadows of arcades, but were too different to be meaningfully compared (Computer RPG (CRPG) vs Console RPG (JRPG)). Handhelds stopped being a joke (Pokemon Red/Blue and the GBA in general). 3d was janky especially in the beginning (ie FFVII). There wasn’t a dominant multiplayer experience, so anything from arcades to couch co-op to LAN to community servers shared space.
I think it’s possible to extend transitional gaming be one console generation, so everything from the SNES to the PS2 could be considered as part of transitional gaming.
I think I’d extend transitional from PS1/N64 all the way up to PS3/Wii. The first gen 3D consoles have a definite transitional jank to them that I can understand acknowledging, but it’s also a period of industry transition where the meaning of AAA games changed from smaller teams and tech focus to huge teams and content focus, and the last era before online play, patches, and microtransactions became common.
I’d also probably cut retro into two periods somewhere around 1986. Even on the NES, where this was mid-generation, almost all the fondly remembered games came out from 1987 onwards.
I think I’d extend transitional from PS1/N64 all the way up to PS3/Wii. The first gen 3D consoles have a definite transitional jank to them that I can understand acknowledging, but it’s also a period of industry transition where the meaning of AAA games changed from smaller teams and tech focus to huge teams and content focus, and the last era before online play, patches, and microtransactions became common.
I mostly consider PS3/Wii to be early modern gaming. It’s not quite modern modern, but most of the components were already there. Horse armor came out half a year before they were released, a harbinger of things to come. Informal LAN parties (ie outside of a gaming cafe) were already seen as an anachronism by that time. Server multiplayer still was a thing, but they were going to compete with matchmaking. Arcades still held on with fighting games like Marvel and DDR, but it had long since been eclipsed by consoles and PC. Plants vs Zombies and Farmville came out around this time. eSports was already a thing by this time with SC2, which of course grew out of SC1. MOBAs ultimately came out of a WC3 mod which was inspired/based on a BW mod.
I’d also probably cut retro into two periods somewhere around 1986. Even on the NES, where this was mid-generation, almost all the fondly remembered games came out from 1987 onwards.
I didn’t want to make the post too long, but I split retro gaming into three parts:
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Archaic gaming: Basically weird experiments like that tennis game being played on an oscilloscope or some ancient RPG from the mid-70s. Pong could go here, which apparently led to Pong clones and a subsequent Pong crash. In this era, purely electronic games had to share space with electro-mechanical games.
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Early retro gaming: Everything from the release of Space Invaders up to the videogame crash of 1983. All your arcade classics like Breakout and Pac-Man go here. This was the era of the Atari 2600.
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Late retro gaming: This is post videogame crash with the rise and complete dominance of Nintendo. Most gaming franchises began here. Franchises like Mario or Zelda or Final Fantasy. On a more negative note, this is where “gaming is for boys” began because after the crash, Nintendo sold gaming as “toys for boys.” I honestly think you could trace Gamergate back to Nintendo’s marketing decision. Something like the development of Ms. Pac-Man, an early retro game, was a glimpse of what could’ve been.
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360 is for sure entering retro territory
