Norway: literally occupied by the Nazis.
Spain: ran by a Nazi-sympathetic fascist at the time.
Ireland: newly formed Republic that was imprisoned via colonial occupation and civil war and didn’t really have any direct skin in the game.
Her argument shifted to “They were neutral until they were invaded. Which means being neutral”. To which the proper response of course is to point out that Poland too was neutral until it was invaded.
So how would non-neutrality be defined at that point then? Just preemptive invasions? Axis Powers would be the only non-neutral countries in the war.
To be as charitable as possible, it is possible for her interpretation of non-neutrality to cover any country that joined the war without or before being invaded. So for instance the Commonwealth states, France (France leaning towards neutrality of course since they did get invaded later) and the US would be not-neutral, as would countries like Mexico and Brazil. Of course this definition means that neutral countries would include Poland, the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, and China. And if your definition of “Neutral in WW2” list has China and the Soviet Union in it, it’s useless.
Even if that were the argument, US would be neutral. It only declared war after Japan attacked. It’s a stupid argument but thanks for reconstructing it.
I guess I subconsciously didn’t count Pearl Harbor as an invasion. But you’re right. The US would be added to the list of neutral nations. Leaving the list of “Neutral nations” even more ridiculous.
It was true until it wasn’t
Screaming “you just hate me because of my religion” at passersby while I keep trying to shoot my neighbor after I have fenced in his property to be used as mine, and after I have killed some of his family
Ok cool, now what side was the now enthusiastically Zionist Germany on?
Everyone. Was. On. Vacation.
In this mind palace, neutrality is somehow worse than enthusiastic Naziism?
I guess Switzerland and Bulgaria are next.
Bulgaria sided with the nazis. They fully joined the Axis powers in 1941.
Yes. By her standards that’s neutrality.
I don’t think so
Swiss bankers were important to the Third Reich.
Lahav Harkov is still a blockhead, though.
Spain: ran by a Nazi-sympathetic fascist at the time.
El Caudillo (euphemism for Franco in Spain) was also most likely the most successful dictator in history. The west backed him because he purged commies (and even allowed him to enter la ONU or the UN). When he peacefully passed away, the Spanish political society did not want to prosecute anyone for being a franquista so they gave a blanket “both sides” amnesty and suppressed the crimes of el Caudillo in the education system. Then the “socialist party” dropped marxism and went succdem to neolib only to replicate american politics with their right wing counterpart the People’s Party (ironic name).
Franco, a murderous fascist with delusions of grandeur, got UN membership and Palestine still hasn’t.
The socialist party had become socdem in 1921.
Spain is really a shining example of how fascism returns to (capitalist) normality.
Don’t forget about the “vote for the return of the monarchy, or else”
She could have made such a better bad faith argument if she knew that two of these countries were fascist-controlled at the time
Norway was literally invaded by Nazi Germany. Spain was ran by Franco but it was also in ruins because of the civil-war, there was no way they were going to join the war unless either the UK or Nazi Germany invaded them. Ireland disliked the UK and didn’t want anything with them or Germany. Still, a bunch of Irish people went to fight for the allies.
Spain also send entire division to fight for Adolf.
One division? Pathetic. The US sent John Rambo to liberate Auschwitz on his own. And yet, to lefties, somehow the US supports genocide…
I think Portugal also did that.
Yes, and we also exported a lot of tungsten to the Nazis, to the point the UK had to intervene
You know who else was vegetarian?
I bet she felt really witty when saying that 😅 libs do be the dumbest mfers on earth.
I would imagine that for the Irish it hardly mattered to them whether the genocidal fascists they fought were german or british, and resulted in a sort of
Oh boy. Only a matter of time before they bring up the Spanish Inquisition and Conquistadors.
the whole “the irish spat on people who fought the nazis” thing is a big talking point that literally always gets brought up with modern day british anti irish racism ever since it became socially unnaceptable for them to just call irish people potato n-words.
my dad is like one of those japanese soldiers who kept on fighting for decades after ww2 ended but for being openly racist against irish people, once when i was little i invited an irish friend over and my dad literally just refused to talk to him. like most of the right wingers in this country moved on to muslims decades ago but my dad’s hatred is so pure for finding excuses to hate irish, welsh and french people that he never really got into that kind of racism.
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