• DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    Humanist Democratic Socialism does. Communitarianism might also.

    … actually there’s probably forms of Distributism, that might. Just depends on whether we’re talking classic Communism with a one party centrally planned command economy (which is how a lot of people interpret the term still).

    Communism is just too broad an idea to agree to blindly, it could be referring to anything from a small scale communal farming co-op to a one party Authoritarian system.

    You’ll have to be more specific.

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      20 hours ago

      If you want to REALLY reduce the definition of communism down to its most concentrated form, “From each according to their ability, to each according to their need”, then not only is communism a successful system, it is the only reason our species exists today.

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        20 hours ago

        Cool. Provide an example of a fully functional and prosperous- communistic society that doesn’t have some form or capitalism embedded into its socioeconomic fabric.

        Could you provide an example of a fully functional and prosperous capitalist society that doesn’t have some form of socialism embedded into its socioeconomic fabric?

        You’re asking for a ‘clean’ delineation that doesn’t exist in the real world, not just for the system you oppose, but also for the one you accept as ‘normal’ and functional.

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            19 hours ago

            No. Bust I’m not claiming such a thing exists either.

            You made that comment in response to:

            Humanist Democratic Socialism does. Communitarianism might also.

            … actually there’s probably forms of Distributism, that might. Just depends on whether we’re talking classic Communism with a one party centrally planned command economy (which is how a lot of people interpret the term still).

            Communism is just too broad an idea to agree to blindly, it could be referring to anything from a small scale communal farming co-op to a one party Authoritarian system.

            You’ll have to be more specific.

            I don’t see where that claims anything about the purity of any given system. In fact, all it does is ask for “What definition of communism are you using?”

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                18 hours ago

                I said capitalism is at least better than communism. Everything else is words written for me.

                To be precise, you demanded an example of a ‘pure’ system that the original commenter made no pretensions of supporting, and when called out, you objected that you weren’t the one claiming that such a system existed, implying that the other commenter was (which is demonstrably untrue).

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                    18 hours ago

                    My original point is: Communism isn’t automatically good just because capitalism isn’t.

                    I absolutely did not get that meaning from your comment at the top of this thread, which was:

                    No, but It beats communism any day of the week.

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        20 hours ago

        You really just don’t know how to handle other people disagreeing with you without being an enormous cunt, huh?

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        Not my argument, but I just wanna pop in and say I think a more perfect system -would- be a blending of capitalism and socialism. Something where you have to work to enjoy a certain “level” of lifestyle, but not to survive.

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            No one’s arguing with you on that. You’re saying communism and socialism are bad when your problem as described by -you- is with Authoritarianism.

            You say that Communism and Socialism are Authoritarianism, which shows me that you don’t understand what those terms mean.

            You accuse others of living in a dream… Some of the most celebrated people in history are the dreamers. Maybe check your own cup for the Kool-Aid.

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                19 hours ago

                Really? That’s it? How disappointing…

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                    18 hours ago

                    You’re not even arguing with facts, lol.

                    You know what dance? Backing up a position with more than feelings?