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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to technology@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 day ago

China offers an alternative to Western ‘technofeudalism’

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China offers an alternative to Western ‘technofeudalism’

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Opinion | China offers an alternative to Western ‘technofeudalism’
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China’s answer to the Western model focuses on planning, an open source approach and whether the new technology earns its place in society.

https://archive.ph/MnjB5

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    Ah yes, let’s just ignore the authoritarianism and fascism because it’s open source :3

    Edit: /s

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      Authoritarianism isn’t a fucking thing. And China isn’t fascist in any meaningful sense of the word. Why the fuck are you carrying water for the American Empire and siding against the country that every imperialist is currently salivating over destroying?

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        Pont exactly where I “carried water for the American Empire”

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          “let’s just ignore the authoritarianism and fascism because it’s open source :3”

          How is this not making the empires argument for them?

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          Your parroting of imperialist talking points and language.

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            So in order to not be carrying water for the U.S. I need to disagree with literally everything they say?

            I’m not parroting. All words and opinions are mine.

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              I’m not parroting. All words and opinions are mine.

              data-laughing

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              I’m not parroting. All words and opinions are mine.

              You are a product of very effective propaganda, so effective you think you came up with those ideas on your own.

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                “What propaganda?” replied the CIA agent

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              Your words and opinions are a regurgitation of ancient red scare propaganda. They are easy to recognize when you actually learn (or really, unlearn) how language and narratives have been crafted against the left. You have no knowledge of this so you believe your language, which could be lifted from the mouth of a genocidal US general in the 60s (or a racist anarchist in the 30s!), is actually your own unique idea and not something you have absorbed from your context - your upbringing, your education, your social circle, and the media you are exposed to.

              Again, you know basically nothing here. You tacitly admit it with every obvioua fib. Just be honest and ask questions instead of trying to fight when you have tied both of your own hands behind your back.

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              They are not yours, they have been given to you. They were presented to you, already made, and you accepted them.

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              When you’re in hexbear you better come heavy with materialist analysis and citations or dont come at all.

              Your earlier mention about bias indicators should have come with a link at the very least.

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          point your fucking hog, nerd

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            7h later, no nerd hog :(

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      The US is fascist. China actually has a democracy.

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        1. Agreed
        2. No lol

        At no point did I praise the U.S. why are y’all thinking I did.

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          What do you know about the government of the PRC? Have you read about whole process people’s democracy? I’m sure you’ve investigated it thouroghly since you’re making definitive statements about it. Could you please be specific about why you don’t view the system in China as a democracy.

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            No real freedom of speech.

            I could throw this same bad argument back at you about the United States.

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              Freedom of speech isn’t a real thing lmao.

              The US kidnaps people and imprisons them in cruel conditions if they have soccer tattoos.

              The FBI sent letters to MLK Jr. telling him to end his own life.

              The US stole indigenous land by writing deals they would break.

              China did what? Give free education? Crush a cult (Falun Gong) lift 800 million people out of poverty as defined by the World Bank

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                China (bad) stole the Lamas’ serfs!

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              Freedom of speech does not exist anywhere and is an idealist myth constructed for the purpose of western imperialist chauvinism. This is why it is easy for people here to clock your liberalism.

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                Lol I am a leftist.

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                  I know you’ve blocked us so you won’t see this, but on the off chance you do, thank you for giving me the good laugh I needed today.

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                  You are a knee-jerk chauvinist that makes things up and parrots the false anti-left language of imperialists (capitalists), regardless of how you self-label.

                  Do some self-reflection. You know so little, you should be asking questions, not picking fights.

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                    think-about-it can’t absorb Communist propganda if you don’t read

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                  doubt

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                  So you oppose capitalism?

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                  You’re an idiot wrecker that goes by whatever the CIA told you to believe about actual attempts at building socialism. At least these guys are getting paid, you’re just running the script on autopilot for free. Liberal scum

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              In what way do people in China not have freedom of speech?

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                ???

                Have you been living under a rock?

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                  I actually have been, can you please help me by explaining your position on this and maybe providing some small amount of evidence to back it up?

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                  Answer the question

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                  Oh so you don’t know either?

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                  It’s pretty frustrating when people expect you to explicitly state your grievances against an entity that our government has taught you to fear and hate in general huh

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                  No i haven’t. I’ve read about China and listened to people living in China.

                  What can’t you say in China that leads you to say there’s no free speech?

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              I’m gonna go yell “Fire” in a crowded theatre and see what happens

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                Alright I’m blocking hexbear. Y’all can’t make a solid argument to save your lives.

                That’s not freedom of speech. Nither is CP.

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                  You’re scared of the free speech we have here?

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                  Alright I’m blocking hexbear. Y’all can’t make a solid argument to save your lives.

                  Your argument style:

                  ???

                  Have you been living under a rock?

                  Total hypocrite

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                    I just wanted to know what his definition of “freedom of speech” is lmao.

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                  lmao what a coward.

                  PS the standard you are using for free speech is literally the capitalist imperialist US supreme court. You know, the one that has consistently validated slavery, genocide, mass disposession, and of course, crackdowns on left speech.

                  Why is it that you, a “leftist”, constantly appeals to imperialist liberal thought?

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      I thought we were talking about China and not the US kiddo.

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      Since when is China fascist in any sense of the word?

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        Maybe if we’re referring to white terror-era Republic Of China.

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