I’ve been too poor this whole time, so the hat is firmly attached.
I’ve been aware long enough of big gaps in the libraries of streaming services that there was never a reason to give it up.
It took until fucking March of this fucking year for Spotify to have any old De La Soul to stream. Good thing I’ve had a high quality rip of their early discography for fifteen fucking years. Otherwise I would have been shit outta luck on listening to them.
I couldn’t stream a killer album from fucking 1989 in 2022. There continue to be massive gaps in their libraries due to licensing issues and people who just don’t want to get underpaid by Spotify.
At least the De La Soul situation was understandable. Imagine the amount of time it must have taken to track down and relicense every sample.
The fact that visual collage can exist so easily, and yet audio collage is facing an uphill battle, some 40 years later, feels like a big indicator that copyright law in the US still needs a massive overhaul
I’ve been too cheap this whole time.
My man
Me too, but for some damn reason, it seems to cost more per month, overall, than a couple subscriptions.
But I will say, I love my setup…
Also you actually own the files not rent them, which I think is worth the price.
Way too accurate. Netflix, when it was the sole main provider, was super good. Then the other companies realised the big bucks they could get from streaming/peddling their own shit.
Thanks to this meme, I killed my netflix account. Nicotine is fine :D
It sucks when competition spoils a market
The whole idea that competition is good is a total libertarian lie. Cooperation leads to the best results. It’s just impossible under capitalism.
It is good, if the competing products/services are interchangeable and they need to compete on factors such as price, convenience, or reliability. For example, competing grocery stores, all of which offer by and large the same products. Or competing mechanics, all of which can perform service on your car.
Streaming services don’t do this. They have carved up the market and “compete” by making you choose which products you want more.
Imagine two grocery stores, one of which had all the ice cream, and the other had all the chocolate, and neither could carry things that the other stocked. That is what streaming services are doing.
Modern copyright law is essentially a state sanctioned monopoly.
Rights holders should be forced to license the content to anyone that wishes to distribute it. As it stands now, they can lock it in a vault for generations if they wanted.
As it stands now, they can lock it in a vault for generations if they wanted.
Like Disney used to?
You mean like Disney still does… they just purged 500 million dollars worth of content from Disney plus and there is no other legel way to view most of that content now untill Disney decides to wheel it back out again (content that got a physical release is obviously still available)
no other legel way to view
Case law states that if media is no longer available, it’s consumption is considered preservation and is thus completely legal. Nobody can argue lost profits for something that literally isn’t even on the market. Fun fact: this is the reason why Nintendo releases their old games on the E shop for way more than what they’re worth. Once it’s up there they get to do takedown requests of every ROM on the internet.
I was not aware they’re back to vaulting things
Competition on price sounds nice because it prevents excessive prices, but it’s also a root cause of poverty and environmental abuse. Cooperating is much better.
Thank you for giving the much warranted economics lesson.
Ehh…it’s entirely dependent on the product. Music streaming services are actually all comparable to one another and have not suffered the same fragmentation that the TV and movie streaming services have. With music streaming services, you literally just pick whichever works for you and you can get nearly all the same content. It just doesn’t work the same for every market I guess.
i can’t describe you how much joy your comment gave me. an (at least) anti-capitalism comment in a completely random post. i love it.
thanks for making my day
arrrrrgh 🏴☠️
Cheers, matey 😉
Pretty sure I read they’re all losing money hand over fist, which is why they’re implementing ads and jacking up prices. Exception being Netflix.
I’ve just finished my setup with Radarr, Sonarr, Jellyfin, qBittorrent and nzb360. I’ve paid 120€ for proton vpn for 2 years, 200€ for m2 ssd for 4tb and a few bucks for domain to access my setup from anywhere. Also, I have a 1gb internet connection for 65€ pm…
So, I’m willing to pay… I don’t want to spend all this time configuring scripts and integrations(though it was fun 😁)… But paying for Netflix, Prime, HBO, Disney+ and not being able to watch everything I want, simply makes me angry and miserable.
Duck them all. Arrrrr
I have outsourced much of the setup you describe to a country with lower law enforcement pressure with regards to torrenting. Costs me 15€.
Worth it for me.
Saw some service offering like 100k movies for $15 a month.
Only thing stopping me is the thought of giving my credit card details to a criminal…
Create a virtual card most banks will let you do it.
Those places usually let you pay in crypto also
do you have a name for the provider?
It’s a seed box I should have written that. If you google seedboxes it should be the first hit or so.
You still have to torrent but it’s not on your pc.
Is it done SaaS or do you have your private setup? Also what about the speed? I stream 20gb files over wi-fi and can experience issues with stream lag time to time
I’d say stop using wifi, get a better decoder or get better wifi. Ugh, I really dislike wifi.
Well… it is a quote powerful wifi6 device and I get problems only with files 30gb+. My question was mostly about the internet connection affect in this case
It also requires you to skip from page to page. You need a page to search to tell you what page to to go search for what you want to watch
Are ya ready, kids?!?
aye aye captain!
Oooooooh!
Who lives in pineapple under the sea?
Jeff
Can confirm.
Holy shit, I never thought I’d see Jeff in here.
Wait till Karen hears about this!
Who pirates shows and hate netflix?
I subscribe to a bunch of services but still pirate all the shows because it’s nicer to have them all in one place
Why do you subscribe then?
Probably for the convenience of partners/children.
Lots of people who aren’t super deep into computer nerdy shit get outright confused when faced with options they’ve never heard of like “Plex.” Sometimes it’s just more convenient to respect your partner and keep Netflix because it makes sense to them.
Plex doesn’t have easy-to-use parental control options and a lot of parents who might have the time to set up a Plex server for themselves may not have the time to muddle through the parental control options than just accepting that most streaming services have a kid-friendly section already set up and easy to access. Plex’s matching algorithm isn’t perfect, and opening it to your kids means you’ve got to make sure the matching is perfect. I’ve definitely had adult shows be recognized by the matching algorithm as children’s shows. If you don’t catch that, your kid can end up watching something you’d rather them not. It’s just a lot more work to manage your Plex parental controls than just using the off the shelf setup from the streaming services.
Neither of these apply to me, but I know folks who have Plex plus subscribed services for these reasons.
Plex actually has better parental controls than Netflix. You can even limit people to specific libraries so just put all the kid stuff in one and you’re good to go.
Really it’s that having everything in one place is more convenient.
I agree, but better /= easier to use for a lot of folks. For folks like us its a piece of piss, sure, but not everyone sadly.
Plus, like I pointed out, it means you have to be a lot more vigilant about making sure matches are correct. Plex makes mistakes.
Agreed. Sometimes I’ll get a text saying ‘the plex thing wont load’ and it doesn’t really make sense to them when I say ‘yeah, I took my computer today’
‘yeah, I took my computer today’
Kinda a dick move, eh?
I’m sorry I needed it for school?
I did warn anyone who had access that it wasn’t a 24/7 guarantee.
This is why you gotta pay your server admin.
Unacceptable!!!
They came free with a bunch of other things so I subscribe until they start charging me, and then they’re like “oh no don’t go here’s a free year” and I’m like “okay.” I’d steal it anyway but at least this way it’s a little ethical.
It’s an unpopular take here I would guess, but because they have the money to do it, and it’s the right thing to do.
The unfortunate thing is the actual actors/writers/producers aren’t getting paid because they’re paid per stream that Disney or whatever won’t count because it’s pirated.
I have nutflex but still ended up downloading ld&R because they would not stop fucking up the episode order or playing no more than one at a time before rotating back to a reshuffled episode menu and i JUST WANTED TO WATCH THE FUCKING SHOW
I have nutflex
You should get that checked out.
Weird flex, but ok.
if you’re talking about UI/UX check out stremio. it’s groundbrakingly good
Every time I see this meme there’s another platform on here
Because there’s a new platform (being annoying) every time this gets reposted, which is a lot!
Corporations had a good thing going on, they fucked it up.
Corporations had a good thing going on, they fucked it up.
Show me nearly any problem the US has and I will boil it down to Corporate Greed and/or Racism.
I have a ring set aside for the first woman I meet that says this
Sorry man, but you haven’t found her yet. 😁
I’m usually baffled whenever companies do a long term face-plant for the sake of short term profit. Really goes to show that what academics like to theorize about capitalism isn’t reflected in reality. Sure the system might work with people interested in long term gains but it very obviously is run by people that want short term gratification and in general just more of whatever they already have. Mostly that means money, because swimming in money still is not enough for these people.
Loot boxes and streaming are the best examples, the companies could have had a thing where they just print money. All they had to do was to moderate themselves a bit and not extort the customer for the last cent. But no, insane amounts of cash flow/profit are not enough, it needs to be ludicrously insane amounts. And after that some more.
You forgot complacency and apathy
Fair enough, but I think we’d be doing pretty good if we eliminated corporate greed and racism.
Complacency and apathy like to hang around with corporate greed and racism quite often, so i heard.
There might be a chance of eliminating four ghouls with one spell.
Duh, we live under capitalism. Racism can be overcome (not in this lifetime tho), but the greed is built into the system.
Honestly most of my problems in life have much to do with the fact that rich Southerners halted the Reconstruction in order to maintain dominance over the poor
So both!
Good Ol’ Andrew Johnson.
Say the line, Gabe!
As we approach every service charging $30 a month, there’s going to be a point where the average consumer will just give up.
Meanwhile, your seedbox will still only be $5.
That’s cheap. Where do I sign up?
I pay $5 for evoseedbox.
The eyes in this fucking strip have haunted me for years.
This, it would be less deep in the uncanny valley without eyes at all.
On second though, it doesn’t seem like a big improvement. Reminds me a bit of limbfeeders without limbs.
I thought that was hair. I still see it mostly as hair. My brain can only see it as eyes for a fraction of a second at a time.
Yeah, I used to turn to such activities because it was cheaper, now I do it because it’s simpler/easier.
It’s Plex’in time!
I’m more of a Jellyfin person though (all hail open source!)
based
Does jellyfin support transcoded downloads already? Thats the only thing holding me back from plex. All my movies and shows are 4k no need to load giant 4k files to a phone when traveling.
Yeah, it also has hardware acceleration for on the fly transcoding. It needs some configuration to tell it what you’re running it on but nothing particularly major
Plex is getting worse tough just saying…pushing their own services and now they started blocking certain hosting providers.
It may be but until other options are available on a PlayStation, I doubt I’ll move. I don’t even watch stuff but the people I serve to need functionally on the PS… maybe they’ll get smart TVs soon
Jellyfin is a great and superior alternative.
To the grand line!!!
We Are!
Don’t forget the price increase and drop in quality.
The price increase I can deal with. The drop in quality and getting rid of password sharing (after they actively endorsed it) is why they lost me.
Ah enshittification, making me not want to pay for your shitty services every god damn time.
This is my new favorite word.
