It’s wild that liberals can’t see through the rhetorical trick of “tankie”. There was maybe a month where it fooled me- this fringe group of extremists are supporting something too far. But then you critically analyse hexbear, the most tankie forum I know of, and we just want mass transit and the basic right to self-actualisation. r/Chapotraphouse was just my neighbours saying they deserve the same shit I deserve and being honest about the structural barriers to that. The moment I saw what tankies were advocating for and the organisational reasons why, it became the bare minimum standard for taking someone seriously as an adult. Anticommunists inherently choose fascism.
If I were to perceive someone as tankie(bad) it would likely be ultras. They already have a name, though.
This comes solely from the association in my mind with MoreTankieChapo discord which was full of “there is no AES” china bad ultras.
Nothing liberals do surprises me anymore. Once you realize that liberals are just Nazis that will lie to your face about being a good person, even as they pull the trigger to kill you, it all makes sense.
That’s unfair. Some of them might hand the gun to a woman before you get executed to make female participation closer to 50/50.
It’s the critical support and anti-imperialist stuff that seems to confuse them the most. I think it completely breaks their brain to prioritize problems and take them one at a time, assessing situations based on current material conditions but with an eye forward to a future socialist world. Except for the US - they can have this kind of naunce for the US and it’s politicians for some reason, but not other governments or people.
“we don’t have to worry about nazis, they know they are not welcome”… pure distilled wrecker shit.
Nazis. Famous for never going where they aren’t welcome.
Even if you absolutely hate “tankies”, your ability to assess threats to your own well-being should not be so horribly stunted. None of us dirty, stinky little tankies on hexbear (or elsewhere) have any power over your life whatsoever.
That’s not true I am totally strong and tough and I could absolutely wreck their shit if I wanted to. The cool part is that because I am a tankie I don’t want to, infact one of the things is that motivate me to excercise is that if I am strong I could someday help people. They understand that ideal tankie isn’t harmless, cause of the tanks or whatever, they just on a deep level empathize with nazis enough to know that they could be in danger
Yeahwe may not have institutional power but the only thing keeping some of these fucks safe is our understanding of the limits and futility of adventurism
Umm I’m texting Xi Jinping right now and he’s coming to reeducate these liberals so I think you may actually be very wrong about the threat us tankies pose.
When you dream of adding an extra ‘B’ for Bourgeoisie in LGBTQIA2S+.
Who is the biggest threat to minorities, richest man on Earth close to the US State doing Nazi salute on TV or a few thousand online communists?
But but but those online communists were mean to me for saying that voting for 99% hitler was virtuous
I get called a tankie all the time, at this point the label gets applied to literally anyone to the left of Biden if you’re even vaguely anti-war, regardless of the work you do or the positions you hold. I’ve steered clear of 196 mostly because of the absolutely terrible and specifically anticommunist vibes.
I’m an anarchist and it’s been made clear to me that dogmatism is the enemy, engaging with any moment requires the ability to understand it and adapt.
The presidents inner circle is throwing roman salutes on live tv while the media (controlled by said inner circle) is censoring coverage. Maybe you shouldn’t be cutting off your entire left flank just because you disagree with them on nerd shit from 100 years ago, or on events unfolding on the other side of the planet.
I left tiktok right before the election because my feed was getting flooded with a bunch of videos from, and responses to, self-titled “socialists/anarchists/leftists” calling anyone who was arguing against voting for Kamala tankies and accusing people citing Marx as belonging to a religious cult (because quoting Marx is like quoting the bible or something? idk)
Let me just quote the founding fathers again in my rebuttal of your Marxist cultism
it was more like “here’s why trusting left wing sources and advocating for organizing outside of capitalist political parties is the same thing as worshiping the bible and believing in a coming rapture. i will not be applying this same logic to liberalism.”
many of them were queer people around my age. very frustrating.
yeah ive seen this exact angle from “left” anticommunists on tumblr
i take tankie as a compliment. if some right wing doofus calls me a tankie it means i was cookin
Being called a tankie
Being called a liberal
tankie extremism: LGBTQIA equality, economic equality, racial equality, sex and gender equality, giving people housing, giving people healthcare, giving people education, making sure everybody has a job guaranteed so they can stand on their own two feet (assuming they’re able) and contribute to society to the extent of their ability
nazi extremism: everyone who isnt a straight white guy is a second class citizen if not outright sent to death camps
hmmm seems equally bad to me
But think about how bad the money will feel! There is trillions of it and it will all cry if it can’t be all in one pocket!
as nazis are usually who we need protecting from
So then what’s wrong with tankies
They actually have ideas that will help trans people more than the vagaries of Liberal activism
Because they have similar ideas to what the US education system told me was bad, and I don’t want to have to self crit.
The authoritarianism that they have 0 power to actually enforce.
Queer people that aren’t tankies are like chickens that support KFC
There has never ever been a LGBTQ Nazi ever. Nobody who has ever followed National Socialism was queer (ignore Rohm). Nobody who ever was a fascist was queer (just ignore Milo, Fuentes, Caitlin Jenner, Blair White, Anne Marie Waters, Alice Weidel, Peter Boykin). Outing homosexuals so they face precarity in a hostile world has only been used as a cudgel by “bad guys” and never by “good guys”. This is so obvious, ideologically sorted, and perfectly politically unmessy. Excuse me while I shop at Target on the day of our KWEEEN June 1st.
Everyone I don’t like is a tankie
I’ve been called a tankie for vanilla anticapitalism
“Is tankie just simply an arbitrary label used by liberals in order to silence anticapitalist viewpoints? …No, they were just wrong about calling me a tankie, but they totally exist.”
As far as I’m concerned, the demonization of tankies is just a tactic to split the left and discredit the only ideology that has historically defeated fascism of any flavor.
100%
I blame contra for this.
BreadTube in general was such a flop. For every one person it got into leftist ideology in a positive way, it seemingly produced a thousand radlibs and self-important streamer-fanboys.
It turns out that encouraging already alienated individuals to watch hours long videos of primarily shallow aesthetics and naval gazing philosophy on their laptops wasn’t the key to building any kind of real world solidarity.
Ugh, I had so many liberal thoughts thinking about this. Did Hasan ever punk vaush? Or did one of the Irish lad’s sex crimes finally get the cia juice taken away?
It’s harder to unlearn bad habits than to start from nothing
196 is Vaush-adjacent, and he has directed his orbiters to 196 before.
Vaush on tankies:
It’s not enough to not be a tankie. Mock them, socially ostracize them, kick them out of your communities.
They have basically no principles anyway, they’ll change their tune if it means getting to hang out with the cool kids againLiterally high school shit, absolutely characterizes the way I’ve seen them behaving too.
Having to know things about vaush is my punishment for having thought about vaush
I assure you, this was a thing before contra.
