• FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    the-democrat “So, we got our asses handed to us pretty hard this election…clearly we need to change nothing except ramp up and extend the duration of our shame and insult ‘get the vote out’ campaigns”

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    hillary fucking clinton was an astoundingly unlikeable open warmonger and STILL beat trump in the popular vote

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    The fact that one of those two had nearly 12 million more votes despite his brain leaking out of his ear seems somehow relevant, but who am I to ‘opine’?

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    Even ignoring the massive “raw number versus percentage” problem, her raw total dropped off by more than 6 million from Biden in 2020. There’s no amount of lipstick that can be put on that pig.

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    Probably like 95% of their votes are already baked in through pure inertia, it’s possible she could have run no campaign at all and landed roughly where she did.

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        Probably would have done better if she had done nothing.

        Hell they’d make successful decisions then immediately reverse when they were shown to be good ones only to go full warmonger.

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        No. She ran a campaign. She was all over social media. She had commercials. She was doing rallies. She was pretty active.

        In a way that was the problem because she was not giving the speeches and answering the questions that motivated people to vote for her. Her inability to move even a fraction left on some key issues just gave more fuel to the dumpster fire of apathy and resentment that the Democrats keep perpetually burning and really ended up suppressing turnout. People would rather stand alone in the cold than huddle around it anymore.

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    I like how they say that as if the democratic ticket, regardless of candidate, wasn’t being relentlessly pushed for 9 months. If anything the switch itself generated more buzz and interested about the campaign than any other action.

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      I swear to the holy heavens that the two reasons the switch generated such buzz is because 1: Biden’s Boris Karloff impression wasn’t working anymore and everyone knew his brain was dead and people were dreading him losing to Trump. 2: people thought the switch might cause policy proposals and other aspects of the Biden administration that people were unhappy about (coziness to corporations, Gaza, the general lack of lustre in all categories) to be changed. This was bolstered by the sudden appearance of Tim Walz calling Republicans names and veering toward a bit of populism.

      The Kamala campaign decided that implying any deviation was a bad strategy, quashed any hope of a change, put Walz back in his box, and the buzz instantly died.

      It’s like they wanted to lose.

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        Personally, and this is some conspiracy shit, I firmly believe that the campaign they ran was specifically to remind the progressive wing that they have no juice with the DNC, not even to pretend towards policy, and that they would rather Republicans run buck wild than actually implement any kind of popular policy or even suggest popular policy changes. Their twitter base pushes it online everyday. When the enemy tells you what they are doing, listen.

        I think it backfired on them though, as the progressive wing still has some level of popular support, and it has shown that they will still show up to vote locally but not for the presidential candidate, likely a level of voter discipline they weren’t expecting (hell that barely exists in the modern day).

        Like, they expected they might lose, but not to lose in such an embarrassing fashion, which is why the story now is ‘actually it was as close as we could make it, the cards were stacked against her.’