UHC, Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield, Caresource and more are removing or redirecting their about us pages.
I mean, that is not how the internet works but okay.
If you’re worried that your CEO will be murdered, that might be an indicator that you have some deep problems as a company. If you’re all worried, that may be an indicator that your entire industry is a problem.
It’s really not that hard to run an insurance company without making people want to murder you
Honestly… I’m not sure that it is. The entire concept of an “insurance company” (particularly health insurance) is inherently predatory.
For profit insurance companies are inherently predatory. But so are for profit hospitals and drug companies.
So yeah at this point, it might be impossible to run a non profit insurance company with the consolidation of hospital ownership by the few big hospitals and Catholic Church, and the vertical monopolies of the insurance, drug and pharmacies.
Have the government run it (if we ever again have a sane government).
Feels like we’ll be lucky if Medicare makes it through the next term.
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Remember, one of the provisions of the ACA was requiring insurance companies to ensure at least 90% of expenditure was directly towards covering care, meaning insurance companies are legally permitted an incredible up to 10% profit margin. For context most retailers have profit margins of 1-2%
Don’t forget that the ACA also stipulated they had to send overage checks out to members if they spent more on marketing, bonuses, etc than on services. Getting refund checks from Blue Cross/Blue Shield at the end of the year because they spent too much money on everything but healthcare wasn’t exactly reassuring.
Even worse, they are colluding with big pharma to raise prices, because would you rather get a 10% profit off of $100 or $10000?
The entire concept of an “insurance company” (particularly health insurance) is inherently predatory.
They made sense when the only insurance was the kind that paid out if you sent a ship to India and it sank on the journey.
Most other countries have figured out how to prevent people from wanting to murder health insurance CEOs…
Then again there seems to be a few things that other countries have figured out, but American exceptionalism won’t consider trying.
While I think these are scum, people want to murder people over too little cheese on their burger.
OK, but do do you think this particular case is similar to “too little cheese on a burger”?
No, and I never said that. But thinking that you can run a big business and nobody would be “kill you” mad at you is very optimistic. People can be incredibly irrational, and the more customers you have the higher the odds of a crazy. And you only need one crazy to get lucky.
If I was a CEO of a big company, I’d want some security 24/7, even if I made Saint Gaben look horrible in comparison, because you never know when some certifiable in Bumfuckistan decides I’ve destroyed his peepee with mind rays or something, and decides the only logical thing is to kill me.
However, with this guy everyone wants him dead, and I really hope some of the chucklefucks running such companies start thinking if that really is the legacy they want to leave behind.
Don’t forget that that a CEO legally has to maximize profits. Otherwise the shareholders can sue.
Edit: apparently this is incorrect. It is what they’re hired to do though, so not a big difference.
Yea dummy… that is the “reality” we want changed.
To you it’s immutable, to us it’s not.The economy isn’t driven by the laws of the universe, it’s people, we can change it any time and have chosen not to. So now CEOs are dying.
Wanna change it now? No?
Alright cool. Maybe this is the new normal then.
People have a limit.I don’t understand what you’re trying to say
Don’t forget that that a CEO legally has to maximize profits.
That depends on the corporate charter.
They will now create fake CEO profiles (with machine learning capability) available only on Zoom due to safety concerns.
May be one day, they will also replace the CEO by an AI agent. That won’t be worst than today anyway…
Fairly sure today’s version of “AI” could easily replace CEOs; nothing of value would be lost.
Isn’t this the plot of Deus Ex: Human Revolution? Been years so maybe I’m forgetting… But I remember the main media/propaganda ending up being run by an AI…
May be… it’s been a while for me too. I remember loving the ambiance and music of this game… Good idea when the weather is bad (if it will work under linux).
Yeah, great game. Got a lot of flack for not being the same as the original, but I really enjoyed it.
Of course they won’t see it that way.
Good thing there isn’t some kind of machine that lets you go way back in time to see the pages before they were removed
Good thing someone who can plan their attack and track their target for days or weeks, someone with absolutely nothing to lose and a single-minded purpose, would absolutely give up on their plans if they can’t find a public picture of a company’s CEO on the first page they check.
Also the fucked up facebook for companies exists
Holy shit is LinkedIn a terrifying source for osint. Even without sales navigator it’s a gold mine, and with it you can find just about anything about anyone on there.
please refrain from capitalising such despicable names :)
Fair point, auto correct forced my hand
They shouldn’t let this become common. Hiding who Runs the company just makes them even MORE faceless and disconnected from humanity. Maybe focus on not shafting literally the entire population for money and shit coverage.
I would expect only the wrong lessons will be learnt. But I already saw a headline about another insurance company reverting some stupid policy, so maybe correct ones will be learnt, too.
Not worth my time to check who it was (I think BCBS), but they were going to deny the totality of the anesthesia line item for a surgery if the allotted time (and therefore the expected amount of anesthesia used) exceeded the original estimate.
You’re correct.
If they’re publicly traded, then leadership is public record. Someone could always publish the info for them in a more helpful way than This
If they’re publicly traded, then leadership is public record
For now.
There’s a lot of CEOs and wannabe CEOs about to enter government.
Oh boy sounds like they’re afraid of copycat killers.
Why - are they doing something that should make them afraid?
I think mass shootings in the US are a little passe. This on the other hand…
Targeted killings of evil people get me hard.
Same same… I can’t be the only one with a bit of a crush on this masked hero. What we can see is sexy af, though I would never be able to describe him to a sketch artist.
What’s the old expression?
If you’ve got nothing to hide/done nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about.
That’s why I stroll down the street nude. Everyone else is a juicier target than me 😎 why you wearing clothes huh?! Kinda sus.
The two could be combined. Any shooting of three or more executives would be a mass shooting of executives. By a mysterious masked man that no one can identify.
What do you mean? They are just trying to put food on the table for their families.
/s in case that isn’t blatantly obvious
I watched a documentary on oil execs a while ago (can’t remember the name, sorry :( ). Someone asked an exec why he wasn’t giving 50 of the 60 billion dollars he owned to charity or government programs and he literally said “but how am I going to feed my family” without a shred of irony.
You were being funny, but the billionaire class actually believes this.
It’s because despite having oodles of money they never learned math. A family of 5 could eat 3 meals a day $100 per plate for 60 years for 32.85 million. They have just as little comprehension of their vast wealth as we do. Billionaires should not exist.
Feed my family? What about feeding my coke habit?
What the hell are they eating, inexplicably stable trans-uranium elements?
How many lives does 1 yearly bonus check save?
Smells like guilt to me
Remember what these people tell us - “you don’t need privacy if you have nothing to hide”
Yeah because somebody as motivated as the shooter in Manhattan will totally be deterred by removing the “Our Team” pages from your website.
Talk about focusing on the wrong thing. How about instead of worrying about how to hide the names of your executives you instead have a meeting where you decide to be an ethical company that balances the needs of the shareholder with the needs of your customers.
Novel idea, I know.
That would just encourage people to shoot more CEOs.
Executive thoughts… By Dick Richass
Hiding your website link isn’t going to stop someone your lack of humanity has pushed to the point of actually shooting you.
And removing the tiniest bit of visible accountability you give doesn’t seem like a particularly good idea either.
If this is truly a pissed off customer I’d be curious to see their appeals and grievances trail.
No, but I imagine it might make them easier to catch. If they have to go digging to find a person’s name rather than just going to the company’s website.
Not nearly enough.
Yet.
We killed one CEO, which resulted in one change to their company.
They stopped automatically denying people anesthetic for surgeries because a CEO was shot.
It works, it was just proven that indiscriminate attacks against the wealthy result in them making concessions.
Now we just need to kill one CEO for every small improvement we want to see.
We have a lot of work ahead of us as a country
not enough in the long run, there must be something that prevents this shit from coming back if we manage to fix or improve it in anyway. Otherwise they will just bide their time and we are back at the same point but with even less chances to do anything about it.
They forgot two names: Ms. Wayback Machine and Mr. Archive Today.
Publicly traded companies would have all this listed in official filings, anyway.
Right, but I imagine if you limit the sources to find this info, you make it easier to track down people who may have searched for it prior to an incident like this.
Not if more people go looking for that info now just because it’s been taken away.
People on the internet are like cats, as soon as you close a door the cat wants to be on the other side. CEO’s try to hide and people want to know who they are more than ever.
Maybe they wouldn’t be so scared if they hadn’t lived such horrifically unethical lives.
And LinkedIn
Yeah, but there are some problems with LinkedIn: content can be edited, profiles can be hibernated or deleted, not to mention the need of being logged in with a LinkedIn account in order to visit a profile (something that will be snitched to the profile being visited, especially if such profile pays for LinkedIn Premium, they get to see everyone who visited them).
Deletion and edition are improbable (although not impossible) to happen on Wayback Machine and Archive Today (and anybody can visit the archive, no account is needed).
Then i guess we’ve all got to visit the exec pages on linked in so the real guy becomes a drop in the ocean
Senor sec has a big list
Quick! To LinkedIn!
Or even, the government itself
Quick! To LinkedIn!
theres a sentence I’d never expected to ever read.
You mean the sec?
Aren’t public companies public?
Even if they arent, something like ddosecrets probably contains a number of members at the very least. You just can’t hide your employment.
OpenCorporates is great, free tool to look up owners and agents for corporations.
Need to log in to see
https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_mn/602e90f0-9aec-ee11-9080-00155d01c440
Thank you sir
You need to log in to see the officers, but the account is free.
People proudly announce it on LinkedIn
Internet archive exists…
These people are as dumb as they are evil.For now…
Instead of “kill your local pedophile” a lot more rewarding slogan could be “kill you local CEO”.
Pedophiles and ceos are in the same category for me.
I’ve read about people who knows that they’re pedofiles, but don’t act upon it. That makes (some) pedofiles more human than CEOs.
There needs to be more incentive: “Kill three, win a prize.”
Pizza parties for everyone!
Cause they know what they are doing is wrong!
Cause they know what they are doing is wrong!
I doubt it.
If they actually came to that realization, they would change how they do business.
I used to think that way. Indeed, one of my favorite quotes is from D&D, where an Arcanaloth, a being who is literally the physical manifestation of neutral evil, says “My friend, do you truly believe we consider ourselves evil? No, we seek only good. It’s just that our definitions don’t quite match.”
But more and more in the real world I have come to believe these people know that what they are doing is wrong…and they don’t care.
That’s the difference between sociopath and psychopath. Not understanding that something is wrong, and knowing something is wrong and not caring.
