Most people just want a good life. If we stopped seeing each other as the enemies the world could be better.
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Like South Park on religion: “you’re all so focused on the stupid little differences that you’re not seeing the big, stupid similarities.”
True. For example we are all made of
deliciousnutritious meats.I think if you peel back the ego, the “self” is just obligations that we’ve made to try to create an “identity” like “I have to draw I’m an artist”. “Oh, I have to go to school because I’m a smart person and I don’t want to XYZ.”
It’s all just fluff, or an illusion. If we were to truly be free of all obligations we would find out quickly that we are all the same consciousness wearing different masks. I am me, and I am you, and you are me. If you were to be able to switch perspectives with someone else I’d be surprised if it felt any different than being in your own body.
To paraphrase an old saw, there is nobody as mean as all of us
Nah.
A life of experience tells me most people is awful, and will have zero regards on making your life miserable for whatever reason they see fit.
People is generally bad, they just are like that. My simple existence is hated and ilegal in most of the word. Most of people in this planet wish me death without even knowing me just because how I am.
Every molecule that makes up our entire existence came from the fusion of a hot star, and no matter what it looks like right now, it will once again be both the precursor and the product of many more stars.
In that regard we are all identical and inconsequential.
nah.
I can’t have empathy for fuckheads that want to kill and imprison people based on their sexual preferences or their identity.
I refuse to subject myself to the torture of “working together” with people with fascist ideologies.
I cannot, and will not, coexist with Nazis.
I think op meant more along the lines of normal, everyday people, not radical extremists who hate everyone that isn’t like them.
and by normal, I mean non hate driven people. I believe everyone is weird in some way, there is no “normal”.
the way I described it to my son is everyone has the same right to be happy as he does, you don’t get to dictate that to anyone. we love you for your weirdness and expect the same for anyone else.
White supremacists are not radical extremists in the West, they are tte norm. They might be more nuanced than those who display overt bigotry but not by as much as they like to tell themselves.
In many countries most normal people will harass, imprison or kill people based on sexual preference or gender identity.
Just normal people. Not members of any extremist group. Just the guy who is selling groceries or the gal buying them. Most people on this world hate anyone who is different to them.
I don’t see MAGA people as the enemy because they want to pay less in taxes. I see them as the enemy because they don’t think my kids should exist in society and are actively passing legislation to make it so.
Delete this shit take.
It may be more directed at them than you.
Something will be directed at them if they don’t knock this shit off.
Username checks out
It’s by design. Divide and conquer has been the playbook since they (anti-labor think tanks like the Progressive Policy Institute and others that seek to keep labor infighting) started studying group psychology.
Cant tell if you are pro FPTP or against FPTP 🤔
Very against it.
Yea you mentioned divide and conquer then put images of the parliament with and without FPTP. Its easily misinterpreted to say that proportional representation is somehow “divide and conquer”.
I did not read it that way.
Huh? I showed how a simple change to US and UK election laws can topple the two party system overnight.
Literally, if there are only two private parties run by private organizations of rich people, they merely have to divide us and conquer us. We are being puppeteered by a bunch of corporations that use identity politics to keep the poor fighting amongst themselves and people SLURP THAT SHIT UP BECAUSE THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM CODIFIES IT INTO EVERY DECISION.
Feudalism with a few more steps.
Interesting point, though and I can see what you mean.
Truly, if my comment were to make a sense, I’d have to say they have “combined” and conquered.
This is something we all need to remember
Have empathy and realize that people can have there own views. They aren’t dumb because they disagree with you
Most people seem to want others not to have a good life, ignoring or disregarding the effects that might have on themselves.
Many if not most would sacrifice their own wellbeing if that guarantees that “the right people” will also suffer. They see the world as a zero sum game, and can’t conceive the possibility of having a good life if others aren’t having a bad one.
Most people suck, often to the point of being monstrous by any decent definition.
most
Source?
I’m pushing back on this viewpoint wherever I’m seeing it. Humans are certainly flawed in a lot of ways, especially in how easy it can be to mislead us, but this cynical worldview that most people are actively wanting others to hurt is not based in reality. Honestly it sounds like me when I was in the depths of depression.
I think we have a major problem with how we share and consume news. Stories are shared as screen-capped headlines that emphasize the Bad thing that happened, and even if you find the original article, it’s stuffed with ads that make you not want to bother. Random one-off bad/stupid things that one person did somewhere far away are reported as world news without statistics and context.
The result? Increasing cynicism. The good, uplifting stories rarely come through. People begin to base their worldview and how they interact with other people on this “fact” that most people suck. This culminates in them becoming the thing that they think everyone is - they go through life scared of or angry at other people by default.
It isn’t an inevitability. Maybe I’m wrong, but believing in people is a much better existence, even when they occasionally let me down.
A life of experience being different to people surrounding is my source.
I suppose you can check mental health statistics on people who is different to the group they are living with and see how they are doing.
Also literally most countries legislation legislates against different people with plenty population support.
People is awful.
Source?
I mean… [ gestures broadly at everything ]
Yeah checks out for Lemmy
Problem is that people are fairly easily told that their less-than-optimal situation is the fault of those people, regardless of it being true or not.
- maga republicans stalling legislation to protect americans
- maga republicans forcing legislation to take away human rights given to 80% of the world
- maga republicans publicly releasing a book on who they hate and how they will make them criminals to be imprisoned or killed
- maga republicans lying about how that book, “totally isn’t our thing”
- maga republicans coming out after winning the election saying, “oh yeah, that book is totally our thing”
I mean, I could go on, but I don’t think I need to for my point.
People aren’t telling me how horrible they are. THEY are telling me how terrible they are.
The major difference is money. We should be banding together against the rich, but instead we distract ourselves with what we look like, what we sound like, where we come from, what team (sports, town, city, state, country, …) we support, which sex we have, and a bunch of other things that divide us.
Aliens are here to unite us (/s).
Idk one side wants to enslave, murder, and rape. The other does not.
Let’s just be friends as they take away my rights and everyone I love rights away, we shouldn’t be enemies as they hunt down and murder someone for “existing”
Maybe we shouldn’t be friends with the enemy and fight against the regime?
This is one of the was Nazis came into power, by manipulating the mass thinking “oh we should all be friends” and now look what happened.
-a trans non-binary disabled person
As an autistic person, wholly agreed. It is like people are actively trying to isolate and dehumanize us autistic folks.
There aren’t only two sides to every issue. Thinking like that is limiting.
Regardless of how many sides there are, it is an undeniable fact that plenty of people (in the USA in particular, apparently, a majority of the voters) choose to be in (a) side(s) that want(s) to enslave, murder, and rape.
And many others choose to be in (a) side(s) that enable(s) the previous one(s).
No civilised society should accept any of those sides, or those that choose them.
It seems that way because of the two party system brought upon by how votes are counted and winners chosen (winner takes all). If you watch jubilee, you’ll see just how fragmented both parties are (good example of pro and anti trump republicans). Forcing people to choose between one or the other has led to the USA becoming very black and white.
solidarity means solidarity. other working class people are not your enemy (re: 1984). the all or nothing mindset accomplishes nothing besides closing your mind off to the plights and perspectives of others.
-also trans and disabled
Idk one side wants to enslave, murder, and rape. The other does not.
Seeing people hold this kind of views is fucking depressing.
this view
The truth?
No one is more confused about reality than the ones claiming to know “the truth” Some even name their social media platforms like that.
Lol what is the truth LMAO 🤣
That the US right defends slavery, murder, and rape?
Oh my god, you honestly believe that.
I feel so sorry for your fellow men
They literally do- idk what to tell you besides:
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Idk one side wants to enslave, murder, and rape. The other does not.
Advocating for OP, that’s the learnt way they see how they can become comfortable.
Amen.
What the people who want to control us don’t want us to realize is that you have a lot more in common with the Chinese/Russian/Ukrainian/Mexican/Indian working class… Factory worker/programmer/hard-working house wife… Then you do with your own political leaders and billionaires. People with servants who don’t ever worry about bills. (Biden, Trump, Harris, Vance, Elon, Gates, Bezos, etc)… Don’t look at the foreigners as different and the enemy… Look at the Rich and the Politicians (who want us to blame the foreigners)
No war but class war.
I only see people as an enemy if they’ve declared themselves as such. I’m not gonna make the first move, life is too short to make enemies with everyone I meet. That said, if you’ve got a swastika tattooed on your forehead then I’m gonna take that as a declaration that you’re my enemy.
