• BigBenis@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    I will not be upgrading to W11. Some time between now and when they sunset W10 I will be switching to Linux.

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    7 hours ago

    Or I could switch to Linux…

    OH WAIT, I already did that, darn. Such a shame I can’t ditch Windows twice.

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    13 hours ago

    PCs that can’t run Windows 11 are valuable to people who don’t want to wake up one morning and find they’ve been upgraded against their will.

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    23 hours ago

    On one hand, eff Microsoft and install Debian. It’ll run on a potato.

    On the other hand, I look forward to the coming glut of secondhand PCs I can install Debian on.

    As melon scratchers go, that’s a honey doodle.

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      Why would you scratch a melon? How would you even know if it’s itchy???

      Can you scratch pumpkins too?

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      23 hours ago

      I think we’re gonna see a dramatic rise in Linux systems in the coming years if Microsoft keeps this course. Nvidia have started upping their Linux driver game as well so it’s gonna be a breeze to pick up decent second hand systems and reselling them with a proper OS that’ll take us to the end of the world in 24 years.

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          Yeah I think you’re 100% correct but a guy can hope. For my country, if it’s gonna touch them in their wallets I guess we might see a change. On the other hand, most folks walk around with 8 year old fucked up laptops that desperately need replacing anyway so they’ll just get that new one after all.

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            My wife is more technical than all of her friends and family, plus she has me to help her understand stuff she doesn’t understand. Does she get concerned when I tell her all the fucked up shit these companies are pulling? Nope! She gets annoyed at me for being a downer. If she’s an above average user, and she doesn’t care, then how little do average users care? If I change her settings for her then she’s glad for it, but she won’t go figure out how to do any of it on her own. She just doesn’t care enough to spend the time doing that.

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              I am in the exact same position there. My wife uses her laptop only professionally now, she used to game on it but she has a Series S for that now. I once asked her if she wanted windows 11 on her laptop since it meets the requirements, she’s way to afraid it’ll be too different so switching to Linux will be too much of a hassle

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                I would have already put Linux on my wife’s computer, but she has a Surface Pro, and I’ve read that there aren’t any distros that will get all of the hardware for those working properly. I don’t want her first experience with a Linux system to be something that is inferior. But she started saying a couple weeks ago that she wants a gaming system, so I bought parts for one last week, and I’m going to put Linux on it after I build it. That’ll be a good introduction for her, and if she loves it then she’ll be a Linux convert!

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                  I think primarily all the systems using like Skylake and Kaby Lake cpus will now flock to Linux after win10 support is over. The i7-7700K is still a beast so it’d be a shame if that becomes e-waste. I think we’ll see it getting used in home media servers and the like. My old i7-4770 is in my home server with Arch Linux and it does great.

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          And yet it’s stayed true. Linux is above 1% on steam and rising every year, it’s never been easier to buy a Linux device, or install and use Linux for desktop consumer purposes, and even the tech uninformed know Microsoft is a bag of dicks.

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            22 hours ago

            Recent Linux gain is inflated due to Steam Deck. Their market share has been pretty stale for years at 1,5%.

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              That’s not really being inflated, steam deck and the prerequisite investment into proton is why most gamers can switch to Linux without encountering a single issue these days.

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                If that were the case, the market share at least should have doubled after people saw it was viable for desktop gaming. That didn’t happen. It only gained a predicted increase from the estimated sales of Steam Deck’s, which indeed inflates the desktop PC numbers.

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    22 hours ago

    My computer can’t upgrade to Win11 and I am buying a new one, but I’m putting Linux on it.

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      My computer can upgrade to win11. I clearly remember the vendor stating that when I bought it last year.

      I’ll continue with linux, though.

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        Mine too. I tried 11 and went back to 10. Honestly, only thing keeping me on Windows currently is my plex*arr servers. Guess I have a year to figure out docker.

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          I cannot seem to find that setting in uefi to turn on that chip… Anyway, I keep trying to get my VR library (98 games) to register more than 3, and room setup is a major stroke of luck.

          If there are any suggestions on a distro that will power my rtx 4070ti super, ryzen 7 3800, 32 gb ram, HTC Vive, on its own 4tb sata SSD, I would like to hear them. So far Kubuntu has gotten me the closest.

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    This isn’t news, it’s just the standard notice that Microsoft isn’t going to spend time making their new shiny OS work on 10+ year old hardware.

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      I dunno, I’ve got a laptop who’s CPU was too new for win 8.1 to have drivers or support for it, and is too old to put win 11 on it…

      This is the first time they’ve intentionally cut off the ability to run their OS at all just based on hardware age when it could otherwise run it just fine.

      Not dedicating support to old hardware is one thing, blocking it intentionally is something else entirely.

      Oh, that laptop? High end gaming laptop that was 6 years old when Windows 11 released. The fact it’s blocked is flat out ridiculous, and defending it is equally ridiculous.

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      You make it sound like an older gaming rig wasn’t powerful enough to run win 11. It’s not about the older hardware being too weak, it’s about enforcing their TPM bullshit with which they aim to gradually create an apple style walled garden where they control what you can do with your machine.

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      That’s not what anyone is asking and if that’s what MS said then they’re just dodging the issue entirely. If you buy a motherboard on your own today TPM still wouldn’t be enabled. And their “support” never went farther than hardware manufacturers registering where Windows could pull driver updates from. So that’s just the worst take I’ve seen in this whole thing.

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    Windows isn’t even that good. The OS is kind of a huge mess. It has two unfortunate advantages though: it’s the default on many devices, and (because of that) software availability is best. I wish it wasn’t the case.

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      PowerShell is another advantage, oddly enough, though I’ve been worried for a bit the direction they’re going with that… Everything they’re doing now is Azure and they’re pushing everything to Graph, and the way all of it works is a massive pain for anyone trying to use PowerShell the way it was designed to be used

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    Humm, I installed Windows 11 on a really old Dell laptop (clean install). I’m sure it was not HW supported but it installed fine. I may have had to click something like, " Yeah I know it doesn’t meet the specs"; but otherwise fine.

    No, I don’t like Windows but it’s what my partner needed at the time.

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    19 hours ago

    After about 10 hours of reading and video watching, it seems pretty unanimous that linux mint with cinnamon is the easiest one to use and everything else is hobbyist stuff.