Fuck. There’s layers to this that I, again, didn’t think of before I read these comments. Yeah, forbidding any scrutiny could also be bad.
Before knee-jerk “let people enjoy things” chants, I want to stress that not all fun that partygoes seek at parties is necessarily mutually consenting, or even directed toward conscious people.
Not debate bro’ing but Brock Turner was video taped wasn’t he? The rampant toxic misogynistic culture doesn’t really seem to care about being filmed and law enforcement and the judicial system don’t either.
I’m not saying to stop trying, moreso that the effort needs to be directed at a more productive area like security in these venues. My city scene has plenty of stories of security not caring at all when women complain about bad actors before things have escalated further
The sea of phones at concerts sucks, not to mention people filming and making fun of strangers having a good, weird time. Again, this isn’t saying these issues are more important than assaults, but that phone control policies only seem to impact one end of the spectrum.
am i just paranoid or will this make it harder to get evidence of abuse etc. while being presented as a wholesome anti-phone-surveillance thing?
Fuck. There’s layers to this that I, again, didn’t think of before I read these comments. Yeah, forbidding any scrutiny could also be bad.
Before knee-jerk “let people enjoy things” chants, I want to stress that not all fun that partygoes seek at parties is necessarily mutually consenting, or even directed toward conscious people.
(CW: SV, emotional and mental abuse)
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/brotopia-silicon-valley-secretive-orgiastic-inner-sanctum
Not debate bro’ing but Brock Turner was video taped wasn’t he? The rampant toxic misogynistic culture doesn’t really seem to care about being filmed and law enforcement and the judicial system don’t either.
I’d rather there be some way of at least presenting wrongdoing whether or not it’s actually punished after it happens.
Saying “it wasn’t punished therefore stop trying” is a head-first dive into the is/ought realm of bad ideas.
I’m not saying to stop trying, moreso that the effort needs to be directed at a more productive area like security in these venues. My city scene has plenty of stories of security not caring at all when women complain about bad actors before things have escalated further
The sea of phones at concerts sucks, not to mention people filming and making fun of strangers having a good, weird time. Again, this isn’t saying these issues are more important than assaults, but that phone control policies only seem to impact one end of the spectrum.
That’s what I’m assuming as well
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There’s an argument to be made about a lens that is visibly disabled. Good faith and creepers aren’t known to overlap
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i agree, but it’s also able to be removed quickly for some creeper shit.
I’m kind of leaning towards the slightly icky position of “people in this club know that photo evidence is not likely to exist”
There are probably still security cameras. You just need to be really good about using them.