Edit: Surprised at all the vegans in this thread. I didn’t think there were so many of you. I’m glad you care so much about animal rights, that you’re willing to forego eating them and using products made from them. If you’re not vegan and have moral objections for this, maybe you should look at yourself first and all the animal abuse you sanction by eating animals and using animal products. Did you know dairy cows have to be pregnant to produce milk? They’re artificially inseminated throughout most of their lives. I hope everyone complaining about this also complains about ice cream and cheese. Or else they would be hypocrites who just want to blame others but never look at themselves.
The comment section is laughable. I hope none of you or your loved ones will need an organ transplant in the future, since it’s better to be put on a waiting list and cross your fingers that you won’t die before an organ is available, since cattle is oh-so-important and precious.
Cattle are important and precious. There are already immoral practices brought by capitalism while raising animals for slaughter. This doesn’t imply that it’s moral to now bring an animal to life just to steal its organs as well.
Organ transplant can be achieved artificially by just developing the organs themselves in the lab. There already has been work done in that regard.
They’d literally be extinct if not for domestication. They evolved to be slow, stupid, and delicious
They were literally force breed by humans. They did not “evolve” to be like that.
Gonna play a drinking game with all the people who don’t understand that force breeding does indeed evolve a creature.
One drink for every person confidently stating inaccuracies about this. So far I’m at 4.
Going to a cookout, so the beers will go great with the burgers.
That is literally evolution.
No, it’s breeding. Maybe brush up on your biology buddy.
No, it is (artificial) selection but not evolution.
Artificial selection is a potential mechanism of evolution.
Artificial Evolution is still Evolution. Selective breeding and genetic manipulation just speed it up a few thousand years.
Stupidity clearly doesn’t belong only in cattle.
Yeah it also belongs to vegans
I’m not going to say this is immoral but it does reveal how little we care about animals when we are willing to farm organs across species, which has got to be more difficult. It’s something we would never consider doing with humans but will be willing to bend over backward to do with animals., and then vociferously defend it online. It’s just revealing, that’s all. Animals have zero moral standing in our society. None.
Very weird. It’s like you told me I was wrong and then repeated what I said. There’s an obviously massive difference in value placed on humans and animals here. Is that less confusing?
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English degree here, chief. Writing is a two way communication, and you failed to make your point.
Why don’t you illuminate the big difference between acceptable losses and apathy, since that is the only thing you seem to want to have a point about. And don’t just define the two, one after the other. This will be on the test.
Everything else you said is just “it’s not that we don’t give a fuck about animals, we just give a fuck about humans.” Which, in the end, amounts to the same thing.
Your point: people don’t care about animals!
My point: people do care about animals, religious people get in the way.
Your degree doesn’t matter.
We would absolutely consider doing this with humans. We actually DO this with humans. Skin grafts, organ transplants.
Yeah, I don’t really take meat-eaters seriously when they complain about animal rights abuses.
They clearly don’t care, or else they wouldn’t be eating meat, lol.
Counterpoint: It is possible to be a person who consumes meat while also caring that the meat they are consuming is sourced ethically (e.g. not raised in confinement, humanely slaughtered with as little pain inflicted as possible, etc.).
If you asked the average consumer if they cared whether or not the meat that they were buying is abuse-free, I’d say 99% of them would say that they do in fact care, but the meat industry does everything in it’s power to obfuscate the process so they can keep up their cost-saving abusive tactics to save a few pennies.
You can have humanely sourced meat. There’s a vast difference between “wow Tyson is a fucking horrible company, don’t buy their chicken” and “wow this local farm/butcher really fucking did a good job”.
Death is a part of life. The problem with the meat industry is overconsumptiom. Not with killing animals for meat.
Do meat animals live long? Also, how many meat animals are from “local farms”?
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devils advocate.
I hope aliens are real and they choose you to pump out more organs because theirs failed from all the shit they eat so this way they can keep doing unhealthy things. Because there’s plenty of selfish people out there who chose to damage their bodies.
it’s not fair that some random fucking animal gets to be brought onto the earth solely for the purpose of your fat fucking ass who can’t stop shoving burgers down your face.
Yes I did ignore legitimate uses for this sort of thing because no shit some people actually need organs at no fault of their own and no, I’m not talking about animals being used for food because that’s not the topic.
You know that people’s organs also fail due to disease and cancer, right?
Clearly didn’t read what I said lmfao
It’s hypocritical though to be against slaughtering animals for organs but be okay with animals being slaughtered for food. I’d argue killing animals for food is even worse because it’s unnecessary.
I can’t argue about dietary findings as the gut is still a very much unknown environment which includes things like digestion and nutrient processing and I know very little on that topic frankly
I can argue however that needing a new liver because you’re a drunk and feeding your child some chicken are two veeeery different needs. Some people do need these organs, that’s fine. What I’m not fine with is knowing damn well man will abuse this shit and abuse the animals where as food is a consistent need not a resultant need.