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    22 days ago

    I’m not some cult of personality [slur] who takes a side and defends it even if it’s bad

    You came in here mad because we were criticizing Democrats for genocide.

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      I reacted to this weird fantasy post where the poster acts as if Kamala Harris has any control over what the US is doing in other countries as the VP, which paints her in a light of murdering homeless people. When the alternative is literally a deranged poopypants who could literally not give less of a fuck about the middle east or brown people if you showed him each and every atrocity.

      They don’t send out a weekly e-mail blast to every voter in the country asking “Should we send another package of arms to Israel this week?”. That decision is made by a small group of traitorous cunts who are obviously taking giant kickbacks from the military industrial complex, superpacs, and foreign countries.

      Saying the “dEmOcRaTs” are the problem is wildly inaccurate and embarrassingly uninformed. The cunts are on both sides. It’s rich vs poor. I would have thought that a sub supposedly about communism would already be on that take.

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        as if Kamala Harris has any control over what the US is doing in other countries as the VP

        Mate, of her own volition she says she supports Israel; she’s saying this while she’s completely safe and in full public view; she won’t even condemn Israel. If the democrats aren’t running the country, then who is?

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        the alternative is literally a deranged poopypants who could literally not give less of a fuck about the middle east or brown people if you showed him each and every atrocity.

        You’re describing the entire US political class

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        I know you’re getting the bear hug so I doubt you’ll respond to me, but I think it’s worth examining your assumptions if you have somehow reached a point where Harris cannot be held accountable for the actions of the administration she serves in, cannot be held responsible for her own rhetoric at the convention (in which she promised we would have the most lethal military in the world, with which she would “always” defend the apartheid entity), and cannot be faulted for not being more specific about what her policy on Gaza would be. You seem to have reached a position where voting for Harris is a moral obligation that has no attachment to anything she does, says she will do, or could theoretically do in the future.

        Or at least I assume it’s about voting, otherwise I don’t know what you’re doing here. You acknowledge that America’s ruling class are traitors to the interests of humanity; Harris is part of our ruling class, she’s undeniably part of the ‘rich’ you’re talking about. While we here at hexbear don’t call people slurs, you seem fine directing your anger at these nameless traitors but not at Harris for some reason. All we’re doing is criticizing the class you are saying is bad, and the people who instinctively defend them.

        It’s literally the message of the tweet: Nobody is telling anyone not to vote, but liberals reflexively assume criticism of the ruling class is an argument for Trump.

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        I reacted to this weird fantasy post where the poster acts as if Kamala Harris has any control over what the US is doing in other countries as the VP, which paints her in a light of murdering homeless people

        It’s amazing how you want to pretend as if the second most powerful executive in the US government has no power over what the US does.
        It’s also amazing how you are literally not aware of Harris’ actions prior to becoming a VP, when she did stuff like prevent freeing enslaved prisoners, prevent freeing wrongly-imprisoned people, hunting people for ICE, used her position to support aggression against other countries, etc., and yet, you feel like you are qualified to confidently speak on the matter.

        When the alternative is literally a deranged poopypants who could literally not give less of a fuck about the middle east or brown people if you showed him each and every atrocity

        Harris has literally supported, in an official capacity, Trump’s actions against the Middle East. Like in this case, for example:
        https://thegrayzone.com/2019/05/24/bipartisan-war-congress-trump-syria-iran-russia-hezbollah/

        Between an utterly incompetent genocide enactor and one who is at least a little bit more competent, if you were to prefer either, you should go with the former. You keep advocating for the latter.

        They don’t send out a weekly e-mail blast to every voter in the country asking “Should we send another package of arms to Israel this week?”. That decision is made by a small group of traitorous removed who are obviously taking giant kickbacks from the military industrial complex, superpacs, and foreign countries

        It’s amazing how much you want to imagine just to avoid admitting that the monster that you support is, indeed, a monster.
        No, those people are not a small group of ‘traitors’ to the USian government. They are the USian government. And Harris is explicitly among them, as she has both vowed to help Pissrael keep carrying out the genocide, and she has been publicly working with AIPAC since before the 2020 USian executive elections. She has literally spoken at a policy conference of AIPAC.

        Saying the “dEmOcRaTs” are the problem is wildly inaccurate and embarrassingly uninformed

        They aren’t ‘the’ problem. They are a part of the problem. And it’s pretty hilarious how you try to insist otherwise, given that they have almost exactly the same policies, and have a history of engaging in genocides and other atrocities.
        I wonder if you would also like to pretend, for example, that Trump is worse than Obama.

        The removed are on both sides

        If you think that we like either of the USian uniparty twins, you are incorrect. You are just having a petulant reactions to having your favourite monsters criticised.