time to renew your subscription plan dear 
Was recently talking about this with a friend who gets this from her doctor and is paying out the ass even with insurance, and another whose doctor refuses to prescribe it because “there is a shortage”. Semaglutide is like $40 for a 5ml vial from Chinese labs (that’s about 2 weeks at the highest dose), but we are trained to be afraid of self-medding or even talking to doctors about sourcing our meds outside of “official” pharmacies.
The cost of pharmaceuticals is so artificial. A vial of estrogen is like…hundreds of dollars if you buy it from a pharmacy, like $65 if you get it from a Brazilian weeb, and cheap as hell if you buy raws from china and compound them yourself? Makes no sense.
whose doctor refuses to prescribe it because “there is a shortage”.
I’m sorry, what? I would get a new doctor because that’s dumb as fuck. If there is a shortage it isn’t anything that has to do with the doctor, that’s business between your friend and the pharmacist
The government of Denmark salutes the American people and their sacrifice for making our line go up. Ozempic is currently the main reason why Novo Nordisk is one of the most valuable companies in Europe, and that company is almost single-handedly pulling Denmark out of a recession (on paper, most people here aren’t doing too hot, but since when has our shitty fucking SocDems ever given a shit about that)
Not on paper. Even mainstream media acknowledges that one single drug from one single company is making the difference between growth and recession.
The political power of shipping giant Mærsk is well-understood by many Danes but it is very rarely you hear anyone talk about the power wielded by Novo. If Mærsk can strongarm the Danish government into doing basically anything it wants, so can Novo.
No sympathy, Americans have gotten the government they deserve. They keep thinking that continuing to vote for the “lesser evil” is going to get them anything other than evil.
Americans are by and large swine, sure, but that doesn’t mean we have to indulge in idealism and pretend that the American people as a body actually have any input or control over any of this shit. Electoralism is a dead end by design, it’s not operator error when it does what it’s supposed to
I understand the passion, but technically speaking single payer healthcare is popular among the populace. We will never get it because of the whole dictatorship of the bourgeois thing.
americans have gotten the government they deserve.
this is literally liberalism
if you think you deserve this then that’s your problem
“We subsidize every other country’s healthcare” is such a pathetic excuse lol. Weird that american greed stops when it comes to overcharging foreign customers for medicine
Does Ozempic do anything other than make you not hungry?
you probably meant it as a joke, but it’s original and intended use was for type-2 diabetes
But does it do anything other than make you not hungry
No I didn’t mean it as a joke. Does it do anything other than make you not hungry?
It improves blood sugar levels by helping the pancreas release insulin and limiting the release of sugar into the bloodstream. Making you less hungry is a side-effect of this.
There is anecdotal talk it may help with addiction/addictive behaviors
Neat!
is it true that the drug works for weight loss by making you get nauseous after eating a small amount of food
I mean it may manifest that way for some people, seeing as nausea is the #1 side effect but overall no, that’s not how it’s intended to work. It binds to the same sorts of receptors as GLP-1 which plays a variety of roles in digestion, but it isn’t as easily broken down (normal GLP-1 has a half life of only a few minutes) so it sticks around and stays effective longer. The net effect is that digestion slows down and hunger is reduced (there are receptors in the brain as well as the pancreas, so it affects cravings as well as just blood sugar/insulin response)
something vaguely like that anyhow, I’m not a doctor
With insurance I’m pretty sure its like 20 bucks a month in the USA. Goodrx though says anywhere from 930usd to 1100 usd
Type 2 diabetes patients are almost universally covered by insurance in the US.
For patients with obesity that require medical management, the coverage would depend on the specific insurance providers.
For people who want to use it to lose weight but does not have diabetes and BMI < 35, insurance providers will not cover and you’d have to pay the full price.
Y’all realise this is mostly because ozempic has become trendy in America as a weight loss medication because it came out a ton of celebrities were using it right?
It has become just as trendy in all the other countries as well and a flourishing grey market for the drug exists everywhere you have weight-conscious people with disposable income.
The difference in price between the US and developed countries is purely the uniquely parasitical nature of American healthcare.
People in all those other countries are on average wayyy lighter and healthier than Americans. There’s definitely more demand and usage in USA just because of that. America also has one of the highest rates of aesthetic procedures as well
why do you talk like that
I don’t always, but this entire thread is mostly circlejerking about US healthcare bad (like we all already know that) and random shitting on the American working class???
Does it not work well? Before GLP-1 agonists your options for weight-loss drugs were pretty limited. Stimulants work well but they have lots of side effects, put much increased stress on the circulatory system, and aren’t sustainable long term (also extremely difficult for working people to obtain in the age of the drug war). There have been other weight-loss drugs but many have been withdrawn because of the risks associated with them.
As far as I know, GLP-1 agonists are some of the most effective and safest weight loss drugs discovered so far
As long as we live in a slop-based society where it’s completely on the individual to not destroy their body with the garbage food available I think these drugs will be quite popular
Freedumb
A lot of this is probably price negotiation by those countries but how much of it is just charging based on people’s income in each country? Things generally have to be “cheaper” in places that aren’t the US Empire.
It’s more overcharge in the US than the opposite. Also I don’t really understand your question I guess, because the US does not have a higher income than other countries, except for a few jobs
My understanding was that the US generally does have higher incomes, at least in terms of US dollar equivalents. At least, if an American goes on vacation in another country, you can expect your money to go a lot farther.
