Putin goes on to say

”Our proposal is not to freeze the conflict, like how the west wants it, but to end it. I repeat, this is not to freeze the conflict, but for its final completion.”

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    Good to know the Eastern Ukrainians getting shelled in their homes for almost a full decade are imaginary

    Boy, would my face have been red if I had been supporting Nazis carrying out an ethnic cleansing in those regions

    Glad it was just Kremlin propaganda and epic smol bean Ukraine isn’t a reactionary shithole throwing an entire generation into a meat grinder war for no good reason

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      That is a whole different topic than the thread you’re replying to which is about Russia starting this invasion as the aggressors.

      If you want to discuss the conflict in eastern Ukraine, we can, but don’t start by getting snarky about some imagined argument that exists only in your mind.

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        The thread is about Russia seeking peace, peace for a war that was started, in part, due to the conflict in eastern Ukraine. Pretending like this is not directly part of the discussion you’ve tried to begin just further shows your lack of fundamental understanding on the subject. It’s a poor rhetorical trick as well.

        Anyway, why don’t you volunteer for Ukraine? They need people, and you obviously believe this war is important enough to continue a meat grinder that has led to the average age of the Ukrainian army forced conscript fighter being 43.
        You didn’t answer last time I asked, just like you ignored so many other users questions and comments that couldn’t be dismissed with an asinine quip. Challenge your worldview, or please come with an actual well-founded analysis that can challenge ours.

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        It is absolutely not a “whole different topic”. Why are you liberals so afraid of historical context?

        Oh that’s right, because it demolishes your delusional view of the world.

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        But the conflict in Eastern Ukraine is one of the main inciting incidents of the war.

        This is like saying we can’t bring up the Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in a discussion or why Austria-Hungry invaded Serbia.