I don’t really want to link the discord server and cause issues for it, so if that’s an issue for rule one I’m sorry, please remove the post. I just had to share with someone.

  • BeamBrain [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    41·
    11 months ago

    focing people who want to work hard to give up the fruit of their labor to those who don’t want to work hard or even work at all

    matt-jokerfied THAT’S CAPITALISM YOU’RE LITERALLY DESCRIBING CAPITALISM

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    36·
    11 months ago

    “Communism is when descibes capitalism and calls it communism”

    Like, he even used a family under capitalism to descibe communism, that’s hilarious che-smile

    Also pretty insulting of him to assume that under capitalism that the people who work hard make all the money. I thought the essential worker shit during COVID pretty much dispelled that lie. The people who do all the work under capitalism get paid the least, those too sick to work are killed, and those born into wealth and power take everything the people who actually work produce.

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    28·
    11 months ago

    I got like halfway through the first one and decided I just want to kick this person in the teeth and stopped reading.

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    25·
    11 months ago

    I don’t want to judge based on appearances, but that profile pic looks exactly like the sort of person who would say this pseudo-intellectual “fuck the poor and communism will never work because I don’t view other human beings as people.” bullshit.

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    24·
    11 months ago

    Sure bud. Maybe actually talk to a homeless person once in awhile rather than just conversing in your mind palace.

    The problem is that it costs money to train people who “make things work” and that is money that the government doesn’t usually want to spend, which is why the U.S. is falling behind in STEM but surging in business and finance majors. Additionally, if you have too many people who ‘make things work’ and not enough people who ‘actually work’ the entire system falls apart. Also, frequently the people who claim that they are ‘making things work’ are just making more paperwork and forms for those that ‘actually work’ while the people who ‘actually work’ have to pull together processes on the fly to make sure things actually work, and usually do not get paid extra to do so.

    Also, and this is crucial, even when there is a shortage of people who ‘actually work’ for some reason they still don’t get paid their full ‘market value’. It’s almost as if there is a weird, illogical, hierarchical ownership structure that has absolutely nothing to do with this weird dichotomy of ‘make things work’ and ‘actually work’ people.

    This analogy is complete crap and whomever wrote this is incredibly dim. How can communism be both the primary worker and the leech of others labor? Also, that is a family system under capitalism, it is not related to the worker council or popular election structures practiced under communism. And even so, the person who fed you, raised you, and dealt with all of your tedious bullshit isn’t due any kind of respect or deference according to this person. They are to be abandoned at the best opportunity, so you can be ‘reliable and strong’. Just the most ungrateful little pisspot.

    Analogies and their consequences.

  • Yurt_Owl@hexbear.netEnglish
    20·
    11 months ago

    Me looking for the people who work hard and receive the fruit of their labour under capitalism.

  • snipvoid@lemm.eeEnglish
    18·
    10 months ago

    Fruit of their labour? Tell that to the factory worker earning pennies while the company’s stocks soar. How about those clocking in 70-hour weeks but can barely pay rent while some execs vacation on yachts? Question that disparity. Communism’s not taking from the hard-working; it’s about evening out those stark imbalances.

    Leaders and workers? We need both, equally. Just because someone’s not in the spotlight doesn’t mean they’re not driving the show. And to think there’s a limited supply of those who ‘make things work’? Ever consider that not everyone gets the chance to lead?

    A starving man shouldn’t have to ask for food in the first place. Instead of judging, maybe ask why they’re hungry. We shouldn’t pat ourselves on the back just because, once in a while, we toss someone a bone. Government’s size isn’t the issue; it’s about its priorities.

    And the family bit? Good families don’t keep scorecards. They uplift, share, and stand together. They don’t always wait for someone to ‘earn their keep’. Why? Because they care. That’s not immaturity; it’s unity.

    Equating leaving communism to outgrowing family? Sounds like someone’s confusing depth with adolescence.