“Your ideology has had a century of being violently suppressed. Clearly my ideology that has been around 150 years longer than that of being in full control of the world’s resources and is leading to the extinction of human life on the planet is better.”
The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy.
Taiwan, Japan and South Korea also lifted millions out of poverty and did it quicker
They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there’s constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure.
You could say that communist countries have been attacking capitalist countries for decades as well
What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia??
Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it’s destitute and has open slave markets?
How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war?
I’m not asking you to solve every problem but doing something, even something small is better than sitting on your ass bitching about other people doing something.
I already made a suggestion for you. And you are the one doing the complaining and doing nothing. If you’re voting and nothing else, you’re doing worse than nothing, you’re actively legitimizing genocide and war.
The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system.
What’s the point of joining a communist party that will recieve less than 1% of 1% of the vote? It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. Unless we have ranked choice voting, third parties aren’t viable. It sucks but that’s the situation we’re in. If you’re running for office and have great ideas than it’s wasted unless you run under one of the two major parties.
In the past 30 years or so, the PRC lifted more people out of poverty, than any other country in human history. This is probably the most significant acheivement in modern times, carried out by committed communists carrying out massive, nationwide poverty alleviation campaigns.
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“Your ideology has had a century of being violently suppressed. Clearly my ideology that has been around 150 years longer than that of being in full control of the world’s resources and is leading to the extinction of human life on the planet is better.”
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LMAO talk about projecting, you are literally ignoring actual existing socialist countries but OKAY. Whatever helps you cope, fascist.
I’m sure you’ll get your treats from the elections eventually in 100 years!
You could say that of Cuba, but the Soviet Union wasn’t really even being suppressed during its peak.
The Soviet Union and its allies were 100% being economically suppressed by the west. If the citizens of a capitalist/imperialist puppet state gain self determination and economic freedom through revolution or even by liberal electoralism, they are ostracized and their governments are punished via economic sanctions and/or outright violence. Liberal bourgeois democracies can be either left or right leaning, even fascist leaning, but once they cross the threshold of economic parity, they are no longer worth anything to the capitalist classes that control and influence the world economy.
The Soviet Union was practicing autarky and resource rich to mitigate the sanctions.
Yet just one single post before you said
Typical for you, bad faith
China is literally lifting millions out of poverty, reverting desertification and improving people’s lives all the time.
Do not forget that Amerika and Europe have been attacking communist countries for decades.
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They are all colonized by Amerika you dummy. And lifted out of poverty? Are you having a laugh? Suicide rates are high in those countries, there’s constant abuse of the proletariat and people becoming poorer and poorer but sure.
What a fucking joke, completely ignoring Cuba? Vietnam? Or hell, even DPRK? How about all the South American countries that Amerika overthrew? Or how about the same with Iran back in the 1950s? Yugoslavia??
Oh, how about Libya, which was considered one of the most successful African countries until Amerika and NATO intervened and now it’s destitute and has open slave markets?
How about Amerika having 800 military bases all around the world? Who has never been in a defensive war, never actually NOT been in a war?
China is communist in name only.
Explain. Because the proletariat are still in control of the state. Socialism is the transitional stage towards Communism.
I been around the block long enough to know they won’t explain.
Why don’t you do something about Pine Gap then?
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You quite literally got nothing, just telling people to cope lol
I’m not asking you to solve every problem but doing something, even something small is better than sitting on your ass bitching about other people doing something.
I already made a suggestion for you. And you are the one doing the complaining and doing nothing. If you’re voting and nothing else, you’re doing worse than nothing, you’re actively legitimizing genocide and war.
For the record, I don’t believe your ideology is wack. It’s one I share. The difference is that I vote. I’m complaining because voting is important.
The US and Great Britain genocided entire continents, using bourgeios democracy, IE the parliamentary / representative voting system you hold so dear. Its proven to be the safest shell for rule by a capitalist minority, with the added benefit of making people think they actually live in a functioning democracy, rather than a completely rigged system.
Yes, so are you going to organize? Join a communist party?
What’s the point of joining a communist party that will recieve less than 1% of 1% of the vote? It makes more sense to turn the Democratic party communist. Unless we have ranked choice voting, third parties aren’t viable. It sucks but that’s the situation we’re in. If you’re running for office and have great ideas than it’s wasted unless you run under one of the two major parties.
oh dear you are being incredibly naive. You don’t shape the party, it shapes you. You’re only focusing on electoralism and it’s a dead end.
Sounds like a defeatest attitude to me.
What is it I should be focusing on then?
It is not defeatist to predict that the 500th attempt to walk through a solid wall probably won’t be any more successful than the 499th.
Really? It has never happened, it can’t happen. The democrats are there only to serve capital, same with the republicans.
I told you, join a communist party and organize. Read theory. Voting in a bourgeois democracy does nothing for the proletariat.
Wow what a novel thought, truly an id- BAH GAWD ITS ROSA LUXEMBOURG WITH A STEEL CHAIR
Ok, I snorted reading this
This guy just convinced me not to vote
In your case, probably for the best.
In the past 30 years or so, the PRC lifted more people out of poverty, than any other country in human history. This is probably the most significant acheivement in modern times, carried out by committed communists carrying out massive, nationwide poverty alleviation campaigns.