Sure buddy, and yet you’re still going to be shitting out the US’ Empires propaganda for them. Youre still sitting comfy talking about how “ohh they’re both bad” and the end result is still the one that benefits America.

Pictured: Your utopia

Yes how dare they ask a question?

They are civil insofar as they are treating you how you treat others.

*than

And in the real world stuff happens when a state collapses. So by doing your whole “who cares?” bit the practical end result is that the capitalist cares and they very much appreciate all your hard work spreading their propaganda for them.

Shrinking into a corncob, I see.

You are clearly walked through the logic, and your only response is to go “nuh uh”. Truly exemplifying the peak of western anarchist though

Not even the CIA stooge Hannah Arendt agrees with you on your idea of what makes authority or hierarchy.

Ukraine does not have autonomy. It is ruled by a coup government installed by the US in 2014. Elections have been disbanded and opposition parties declared illegal. Roving gangs of Nazis carry out pogroms and it is illegal to leave the country.
What autonomy do the ukrainians have in this situation? The only one they have is refusing military service, which is why they are being forced to serve. So looking at the only outlet they have - Not being willing to fight - it seems they are opposing this war.
Why are you denying them that autonomy?

Congratulations, your unirganised utopia has now been invaded by opposing capitalist states. Have fun digging up rare earth minerals.

The bigger thing to me is people thinking propaganda is just “one thing” - Like a specific type of post on lemmy. Propaganda is everywhere, the western cultural apparatus exists to reinforce itself and justify imperialism. Black Panther has a CIA spook be the good guy.

I wish you types would learn what a fallacy actually is and what the specific fallacies you want to allude to are. It’s so frustrating.
Drawing a conclusion based on your statements is how communication functions, it’s not a strawman. Walking through the logic of the others argument and presenting the logical conclusions to that doctrine is also not a fallacy, it is one of the most simple rhetorical methods out there.
That you yourself have not thought about your position or investigated your own ideology and you don’t like the conclusions when presented with them do not make them fallacies. They just make you a pissbaby.

What do you think an empire is?

“Look buddy, I said USA bad, so that means its okay for me to continue uncritically shitting out state department propaganda. Yeah the end result is me supporting the status quo, but I said USA bad so…”

Nah its fucking awesome to finally have a platform run by a principled leftist. Most online platforms have their equavilent of Dessalines make equally “controversial” statements, they’re just acceptable within the cultural hegemony so you dont pick up on them

learning that that the russians acknowledged the full horrifying extent of stalin’s cult of personality in school text books was the first time i realized i had been fooled by propaganda.

Just wait until you learn that he didn’t have one and all that shit was made up by kruschev to consolidate power lmao

You guys are always so pathetic with the edits lmao. Trying to get some snide little comment in, but you never have it in you to actually respond it to the people making you write it. Like a little worm

If you live in the west and you’re going “they’re all bad” then you’ve fallen for propaganda. It is not important how you feel about your own government, as long as you support the status quo, which you do when your worldview is that reductive.

Hahahaha now neoliberals are tankies? Holy shit you guys are demented

Lmao, you can declare whatever you want, it does t change what you do or are.
The result of you doing “they’re all bad” is supporting the status quo. The result of you going “i dont support war” is supporting oppressors around the world.
The end result of these two things is a support for the current neoliberal system making you a liberal.

You have the world view of a particularly naive child.