These people are neoliberals masquerading as leftists because they have a slightly more progressive stance on trans issues lmao
Guys pleaseee vote for the blue genocide master because he’s doing one less genocide than the other guy! There’s no other option, stay in the 2 party system!!! I also will argue against any revolutionary work you do because that’s not going to get anything done don’t be silly votes blue expecting a change
Not pictured: 33% of the population who didn’t bother voting because the blue party offered them nothing
But we’re the problem
Didn’t you know they’re all tankies? /s
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
Lol it’ll be much higher this time around. Libtards will still cry about the greens and leftist.
Please don’t use ableist language. (*tard)
The popular vote does not matter. The popular vote does not matter. The popular vote does not matter.
Gore got 500,000 more votes than Bush. Almost 3,000,000 more people voted for Clinton than Trump. Even in the event that these candidates are in any way meaningfully different, THE POPULAR VOTE DOES NOT MATTER.
An average US citizen’s vote is muddled through several undemocratic layers both institutional and bourgeoisie interests. Its kind of like a funhouse mirror where some votes are counted as greater than other votes, some votes look smaller than they really are, others just are at the wrong angle to be viewed so they are just not counted. It’s kind of why most people don’t bother.
The first primary is with the Bourgeoisie to select which candidates get funding to prevent a candidate from representing proletarian interests from getting attention. Next is the Democratic/Republican primary that one can vote for, but each committee can choose to change the results and that vote is more of a suggestion to the delegates that actually vote. The democratic/republican committee of each state makes its own rules. It could be winner of the state takes all, could be elected district by district, could be decided unilaterally independent of the popular vote in states like Oregon. There is also a spectacle effect of the early voting states that are televised, that make some candidates look more viable than others if they do well in the early voting states.
Next is the final election, which is your vote to decide what to suggest what your electoral college will vote for in your state. Often this is decided by how you vote in your gerrymandered district. Gerrymandered districts exist to make sure that the state government can decide which votes matter by geographically running the district through groups of people the current government would rather not influence the votes in their state. Once again each state can also make up its own rules on how the electors from the electoral college are assigned, sometimes it is winner take all, sometimes it is each electoral district decides how the voter votes. Also techically the elector in the electoral college can choose to be a faithless elector and vote for whoever they feel like without legal repercussions. Also the voter to elector ratio varies state by state.
This process is so complicated most normal people won’t follow this. You can vote on local issues a bit more meaningfully. Just be glad that once this country dies the insane procedures can be abolished for hopefully less maddening procedures of elections.
where can I learn more on that?
It’s always the principled leftists fault and never because the option to vote on are actual fucking trash
Also reminder that no matter how convincing succdems come across as, they always vote for the nazis when push comes to shove.
This argument would be perfectly coherent if there were a sincere effort to court leftist votes. There isn’t (ever) so the argument is moot. The response should be a simple “don’t expect votes you didn’t campaign for.” Honestly, it would be trivial for the Democrats to win every election at every level of government forever by promising like 1% of the popular and useful things that people want and then doing them. But they won’t, so again, moot.
In fact, performatively shitting on leftists is a longstanding Democratic tactic https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hippie_punching
Also, Democrats would always prefer to find an excuse to lose rather than a way to win, so blaming leftists serves multiple purposes.
I am banned from this sub for defending China on something I don’t remember. The message was “take your ass back to genzedong and stay there”
I can’t comment and call these people stupid >:(
ABA: Always Be Alting
let i=0; while :; do let i++; echo TeezyZeezy$i; done
“Haha! These fools, these absolute simpletons! They don’t even realise that republican fascism is a million billion mega-voldemorts worse than democrat fascism! Why, republican fascism even effects Americans more! I am very intelligent.”
Boohoo hitler won instead of mussolini!
These people are neoliberals masquerading as leftists because they have a slightly more progressive stance on trans issues lmao
It is the slightly more mask on version of IDF posing with pride flags on top of buildings they reduced to rubble.
Til that my vote fucking counts at all even the slightest
incredibly glad im banned from that comm on my blahaj alt so i dont have to see that shit
They banned me for being a “bad faith tankie” after I sent a report on a comment of a guy sourcing a fascist propagandist with the message “This is the kind of people you’re attracting to your community, fix this” and their response was “touch grass” After realizing their blatant abuse was recorded in the modlog, they panicked and tried to bury it but unfortunately for them, that shit’s permanent. (Nice one, lemmy devs!)
The only justice in this world is that when the fascism they keep pushing for comes to fruition, at least they’re going to be the first to die.
I always ask these people when is it actually OK for people to vote for their own interests instead of based on the opposition party? There’s no right answer of course except that you should always vote your interest. Everybody should.
Worse, though, this trope isn’t just against the “tankies”, it’s for anybody and everybody. Whoever a person wants to blame, especially if the Democrats lose the election. And even if people actually did what these folks suggested, they’d still blame them. It’s never the Democrats’ fault somehow.
Oh no. We got republican fascism instead of democrat fascism. This is just like that time I wanted Coke but the restaurant only had Pepsi!
Seethe more about it. If our votes are so important the politicians of team blue should learn to not only pander to us, but have a history of actually doing things for the working class instead of openly intensifying reaction, imperialist violence, etc.
Two fascist stooges of the most vile empire of modern times, hell-bent on maintaining hegemony, suffering, and dominance of this including through incredible violence, genocide, ecocide, and things beyond? Two pieces of shit who if we had the hypersonic tech and thought we had a good chance at succeeding with minimal and acceptable losses (Dr. Strangelove) wouldn’t hesitate to first strike China with nuclear weapons and vaporize a 700 million human beings just to maintain US hegemony for another century? I’ll vote for neither. Put a gun to my head and force me to make a binary choice and I’d vote for the one more incompetent at maintaining empire and that isn’t Biden who’s so out of it I doubt he does more than get rolled out for press conferences while his ghoulish aides actually run the show. When Trump’s in the WH some liberals are out on the streets with victims of the capitalist, imperialist violence protesting and engaging in meaningful resistance, when team blue is in they’re at home sleeping confident the lanyards are on the job. No matter how you cut it there’s no coherent argument based on the whole picture for Biden winning again if you’re a communist or in any way a decent person. And that goes for Copmala too.
Looks like the blue guy should have done more to earn the communists vote.
Vaas insanity monologue
