UPDATE It has been 2 hours. There is still mixed reporting. According to Reuters, Qatar said Iran had agreed to the ceasefire. The ceasefire has not been confirmed or denied by Iran or Israel. Iran and Israel are still both attacking. Trump’s post said that the ceasefire must begin within 6 hours, that would be midnight eastern time.
In my own personal judgement, I can not definitively say whether the ceasefire is real or fake.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-announces-israel-iran-ceasefire-2025-06-23/
UPDATE 2 It has been 3 hours since Trump’s posts.
Fars News reports that “The ceasefire proposal put forward by U.S. President Donald Trump is completely false and was floated to distract public attention from the recent humiliation suffered by the United States following attacks on its bases in the region.” Fars News Agency is managed by the IRGC, therefore I consider it to be reliable on reporting decisions of the Iranian government.
https://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/1937308597467132090#m
Iran Foreign Minister Seyed Abbas Araghchi says that there is no ceasefire agreement. “As of now, there is NO ‘agreement’ on any ceasefire or cessation of military operations. However, provided that the Israeli regime stops its illegal aggression against the Iranian people no later than 4 am Tehran time, we have no intention to continue our response afterwards.”
https://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/1937313778451763487#m
I think Iran will go for it. It will save the most lives.
Looking that way, the symbolic attack on Qatari US military base today, shows that neither Iran nor USA wants a direct confrontation at this time. Israel will take it because their Air Defence is almost useless. With this timeout, Israel will rebuild, free of charge from Uncle Sam. Iran needs to clean house, way too many moles and spies. They also have to deal with the liberal reformists that wants to normalize relation with the West. It’s obvious the US-West only wants regime change in Iran. They can go the DPRK way and build the Nuke, allowing no UN inspectors to enter Iran, again they will have to deal with the numerous spies. This will isolate Iran, because neither Russia or China wants Iran to have nukes. If Iran is skillfuls with their diplomacy, this isolation should be temporary, because Iran still plays an important geo strategic role for Russia and China.
How come you think neither Russia nor China want Iran to have nukes?
Does anyone then?
I wouldn’t want them to have nukes if I were Russia/China because they seem to flip-flop and try to still flirt with the west. I wouldn’t feel confident that Liberal reformists just sell out to the west and suddenly the nukes are on the other side
Well, I hope they get their shit together and wake up after all this.
Not betting on it
Saves lives in the short term, dooms millions long term
Nuclear deterrence will save lives. A direct confrontation with US and West right now, will be deadly. I don’t underestimate the murderous destructive force of these Western maniacs.
It appears that Iran did, why bomb Tel Aviv if you don’t have the will for direct confrontation
IF Iran accepts a ceasefire it must be, and probably would be, with the knowledge that it’s only temporary and that the war will inevitably resume.
We must remember Israel started this with surprise attacks on Iranian infrastructure, while Israeli infrastructure just couldn’t withstand the sustained might of Iran, a ceasefire simply as a means to re-arm helps Iran far more than it helps Israel.
The long-term damages will be more relevant for Israel as a sizable portion of their population is now going to wonder if they have enough of a spine to squat on other’s land when the other side starts shooting back in earnest. The average Israeli wasn’t alive for the last time Israel was in a peer war and has never dealt with a real military raining ordinance down on their heads, and a tremendous number of them have multiple passports and can leave whenever. Iran doesn’t have that problem.
I don’t think putting the weight of millions on the people of Iran putting themselves in harm’s way is the based take you think it is.
It’s not a take, it’s just reality. They were the only organization that appeared to possess the will to stop Israel’s conquest and, if the ceasefire is real, they do not. It’s a shame, especially given their rhetoric over the last few weeks. Everyone from russia to China to everyday first world citizens have a certain level of blood on their hands, but they never said anything about protecting Palestine. Iran took up that mantle
Iran is not willing to sacrifice its people and it should not be expected to. We can thank them for what they have done but we cannot chide them for protecting their people.
ok then palestine will be destroyed and the thousand year israeli riech will rule
Again, this is not based. This is asking other people to be willing to do something you are not doing.
I’m asking them to do what they repeatedly promised to do, exclaimed that they would do, set up an entire system to do… but then refused to pull the trigger
Dooms the middle east to Israeli hegemony and mass genocide.
Iran is not a messiah
They are the only regional power opposing the genocide, and in fact one of the only nations on earth that was doing anything material against Israel at all. If they are bowing out of the fight, then there is only Yemen.
Who the fuck talks like this “messiah”? No shit. They are a nation state and regional power. I don’t care for this moralizing argument of “you go do something then”. I’m not a goddamned nation state. This “argument” doesn’t do anything to deal with the critiques of a nation state, it just deflects it in a dishonest and bad faith manner