https://archive.is/qGWV2

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/6/23/live-iran-vows-to-respond-to-us-attacks-trump-hints-at-regime-change?update=3795960

UPDATE It has been 2 hours. There is still mixed reporting. According to Reuters, Qatar said Iran had agreed to the ceasefire. The ceasefire has not been confirmed or denied by Iran or Israel. Iran and Israel are still both attacking. Trump’s post said that the ceasefire must begin within 6 hours, that would be midnight eastern time.

In my own personal judgement, I can not definitively say whether the ceasefire is real or fake.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-announces-israel-iran-ceasefire-2025-06-23/

UPDATE 2 It has been 3 hours since Trump’s posts.

Fars News reports that “The ceasefire proposal put forward by U.S. President Donald Trump is completely false and was floated to distract public attention from the recent humiliation suffered by the United States following attacks on its bases in the region.” Fars News Agency is managed by the IRGC, therefore I consider it to be reliable on reporting decisions of the Iranian government.

https://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/1937308597467132090#m

Iran Foreign Minister Seyed Abbas Araghchi says that there is no ceasefire agreement. “As of now, there is NO ‘agreement’ on any ceasefire or cessation of military operations. However, provided that the Israeli regime stops its illegal aggression against the Iranian people no later than 4 am Tehran time, we have no intention to continue our response afterwards.”

https://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/1937313778451763487#m

  • dead [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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    DISCLAIMER: This post is about what Trump says. It is not confirmed that Iran has accepted the ceasefire. I will update the post when there is official Iranian response.

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    Now Trumps supporters will hail him the peacemaker after he started a war, and just decided to stop doing the war cuz his vassal was getting shit on.

    Also im not gonna believe there actually is a ceasefire until i hear it from Iran itself.

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        Looking that way, the symbolic attack on Qatari US military base today, shows that neither Iran nor USA wants a direct confrontation at this time. Israel will take it because their Air Defence is almost useless. With this timeout, Israel will rebuild, free of charge from Uncle Sam. Iran needs to clean house, way too many moles and spies. They also have to deal with the liberal reformists that wants to normalize relation with the West. It’s obvious the US-West only wants regime change in Iran. They can go the DPRK way and build the Nuke, allowing no UN inspectors to enter Iran, again they will have to deal with the numerous spies. This will isolate Iran, because neither Russia or China wants Iran to have nukes. If Iran is skillfuls with their diplomacy, this isolation should be temporary, because Iran still plays an important geo strategic role for Russia and China.

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          Nuclear deterrence will save lives. A direct confrontation with US and West right now, will be deadly. I don’t underestimate the murderous destructive force of these Western maniacs.

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              IF Iran accepts a ceasefire it must be, and probably would be, with the knowledge that it’s only temporary and that the war will inevitably resume.

              We must remember Israel started this with surprise attacks on Iranian infrastructure, while Israeli infrastructure just couldn’t withstand the sustained might of Iran, a ceasefire simply as a means to re-arm helps Iran far more than it helps Israel.

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                The long-term damages will be more relevant for Israel as a sizable portion of their population is now going to wonder if they have enough of a spine to squat on other’s land when the other side starts shooting back in earnest. The average Israeli wasn’t alive for the last time Israel was in a peer war and has never dealt with a real military raining ordinance down on their heads, and a tremendous number of them have multiple passports and can leave whenever. Iran doesn’t have that problem.

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          I don’t think putting the weight of millions on the people of Iran putting themselves in harm’s way is the based take you think it is.

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            It’s not a take, it’s just reality. They were the only organization that appeared to possess the will to stop Israel’s conquest and, if the ceasefire is real, they do not. It’s a shame, especially given their rhetoric over the last few weeks. Everyone from russia to China to everyday first world citizens have a certain level of blood on their hands, but they never said anything about protecting Palestine. Iran took up that mantle

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              Iran is not willing to sacrifice its people and it should not be expected to. We can thank them for what they have done but we cannot chide them for protecting their people.

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                Iran is not willing to sacrifice its people and it should not be expected to

                ok then palestine will be destroyed and the thousand year israeli riech will rule

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                  Again, this is not based. This is asking other people to be willing to do something you are not doing.

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            They are the only regional power opposing the genocide, and in fact one of the only nations on earth that was doing anything material against Israel at all. If they are bowing out of the fight, then there is only Yemen.

            Who the fuck talks like this “messiah”? No shit. They are a nation state and regional power. I don’t care for this moralizing argument of “you go do something then”. I’m not a goddamned nation state. This “argument” doesn’t do anything to deal with the critiques of a nation state, it just deflects it in a dishonest and bad faith manner

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    Iran should have taken their chances while Israel was low on interceptors. Are they really just going to let them rearm?

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      Amerikkka will not allow Israel to fall. We all want Israel flattened, but Iran simply can’t fight the US alone, and Russia and China doesn’t seem to want to commit to Iran’s aid. Yes Ansar Allah gave the US a black eye, but Iran vs US will be an existential war.

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        They never even formally requested assistance from China or Russia. Maybe they should have tried putting in formal requests for assistance from allies before surrendering? They STILL won’t commit to forming a military alliance with China and Russia because they STILL are holding out hope for westerns sanction relief. They are cooked.

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      It’s reported that Israel does have air superiority over certain regions of Iran (Israel claims much more /all of Iran but that’s highly doubtful)

      Israel opened the fighting with successfull attacks on Iranian infrastructure and commanders.

      Meanwhile Israel’s problem is just an inability to deal with the constant barrages from Iran, there was no surprise attack on their capabilities.

      So while a ceasefire does benefit Israel in being able to re-up their Air Defenses, it also has much greater potential to help Iran, as they would now be able to access and/or move infrastructure they can’t currently access and also they can better organize/embedd their new command structures.

      I’m aware of reports they haven’t received a ceasefire and/or don’t intend to accept one. This is just explanation for why they would potentially accept a ceasefire.

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        So while a ceasefire does benefit Israel in being able to re-up their Air Defenses, it also has much greater potential to help Iran, as they would now be able to access and/or move infrastructure they can’t currently access and also they can better organize/embedd their new command structures.

        Wrong because the ceasefire means jack shit and Israel will sucker punch again at their discretion. All this does is cut another slice of salami

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        Everything has to be serious at all times and I always have to view memes through a critical lens because I can’t shut the intellectual off ever because I live by the doctrine that everything has to be serious at all times.

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          What?

          I just don’t understand the prevalence of the “nothing ever happens” meme.

          Its like if “the sky is never blue” became a meme posted during every storm.

          Is it supposed to be a absurdist/ironic and mark that things do in fact happen? I just tend to see it more in nihilistic contexts.

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    As others have said not going to buy this until Israel fulfills their side of it.

    The only way I can see that is 1. They were really feeling the pressure from their citizens given the constant strikes from Iran and their economy was at risk of collapse and/or 2. They believe the bombing critically set back Irans ability to acquire nuclear weapons.

    I’m a bit surprised Iran went for it given they can’t really trust Israel/US and that it seemed the US wouldn’t get involved more if they just kept the pace of rocket attacks steady without escalating to blocking the strait or something similar.

    Either the attacks had a major impact or they would rather take the deal to get the US out of the picture while they push to actually make a nuclear weapon now given that’s the only defense guarantee they can count on.

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      You’re missing scenario 3: Iran managed to deplete Israeli AD and destroy a significant number of critical military buildings and Israel doesn’t want it to continue and the US isn’t willing to start a war to save them.

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        My thought is why not continue to push Israel then if that’s the case?

        But I guess it’s not relevant since it looks like the ceasefire was a fabrication from trump which isn’t surprising given it didn’t make sense at this point.

        I expect Iran to continue to launch the 20-30 rockets a day that Israel will be forced to expend its limited and expensive interceptors. The war of attrition favors them and hopefully means the US won’t get involved anymore.

        From there it’ll come down to if the US will look to restock them and what Irans response will be if they do.

        Ceasefire confirmed, I’d expect Iran pushes for nuclear weapons at this point since this isn’t the last of aggression they’ll face from Israel.

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          It’s worth noting that a ceasefire can be a strategic weapon in a war of attrition, so long as you know it’s temporary and take the time to re-arm.

          We have seen brief (basically unilateral decision by Russia) ceasefires between Russia and Ukraine where Russia takes the opportunity to re-arm/examine strategy and Ukraine just takes any respite they can get.

          Iran accessing and potentially relocating weapons currently unusable due to the initial Israeli attack and limited regional air superiority (caved in storages where the actual weapons are fine just inaccessible currently for example) is much more valuable than Israel re-upping their air defense for it to just be depleted again.

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          Looks like Iran has agreed to a ceasefire

          Edit: This turned out to be wrong

          Edit2: maybe they want a ceasefire on their own terms?

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            —❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 BREAKING: Semi-official Iranian state media, Fars News, reports that Trump’s announcement about Iran agreeing to a ceasefire is completely false, and that Iran will prove this fact ‘on the ground’ soon

            @Middle_East_Spectator

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      I saw a clip recently where a guy pointed out that construction in Israel stopped about 600 days ago, and that it’s difficult for Israel to recover from every building Iran destroys, whereas Iran is so big that it doesn’t cause their entire country to come to a halt because of Israel’s attacks and can recover fairly well.

      I genuinely wish Iran wouldn’t stop until they could make demands of Israel (would be hilarious if among their demands was that Iranian investigators be allowed into the country to ensure Israel will not break their ceasefire)