Vice President JD Vance’s Bluesky account was suspended within minutes of him joining the platform. His posts criticized medical treatments for transgender youth and claimed pharmaceutical influence over healthcare decisions.
Says can’t trust experts because they are clouded by ideology and bribed by industry quotes an judicial expert who’s entire job is to inject right wing ideology into the judicial branch while being motivated by bribes.
What a pos. nobody is “pushing” these medicines on kids. it’s ultimately the kid’s decision about whether they want these medications or not and I’m not aware of any cases to the contrary. also these medications have been used for literal decades so how can they be experimental? how do you expect people to trust you when you lie so blatantly? glad he got banned.
Happy Pride Month ❤️
also these medications have been used for literal decades so how can they be experimental?
Honest answer: the drugs are being used off-label. It’s not even experimental, it’s basically a wildcat way of using them. An experiment would involve control groups and a double-blind trial, among other things.
I’m saying this because this is what rightoids are saying as criticism and you need to be able to counter that with facts. Right now, there just isn’t enough information and that’s what they’re capitalizing on.
there just isn’t enough information and that’s what they’re capitalizing on.
40 years of using hormone blockers for precocious puberty. “Not enough info.” Fuck the whole way off.
double-blind trial
No. The data is fine. It doesn’t need to be perfect.
This is the exact opposite of what the reports out of the UK, Netherlands, Sweden, etc. are saying. They’re all very seriously restricting their youth transitioning clinics because the quality of the available data is so poor it cannot be relied on. Beyond the replicability crisis, there are ideological actors on both sides making absolutely junk studies.
Hence the need for proper experimental data.
Yet they don’t revoke the use of puberty blockers for cis children with precocious puberty, they only are concerned about the lack of data for trans kids - it’s motivated by transphobia, not actual clinical concerns.
Trans kids aren’t having poor outcomes from gender affirming care, quite the opposite actually - and the “we don’t have enough data” argument is a false concern used to plausibly deny a more than sufficiently demonstrated clinically safe and effective treatment.
EDIT: might be interested in reading: https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/
We should be clear, the medical establishment is not woke (quite the contrary, actually) nor is every single major medical association recommending gender affirming care for trans youth on ideological grounds or because they have been forced to by some LGBT+ lobbying, but because the evidence we have points to that care being life saving and effective while also being low risk and in the case of puberty blockers even reversible.
EDIT2: you should also know the Cass Review has been found to be biased in its recommendations, e.g. this demand for high evidence in the case of trans care but not other areas of care have been pointed out as motivated by prejudice, might be worth reading more about the criticisms of the Cass Review:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Review#Reception_by_academics_and_researchers
Several scholars and organisations have criticised the Cass Review’s conclusions and the evidence base used to support them. Researchers Cal Horton and Ruth Pearce have said of the Cass Review, “its most controversial recommendations are based on prejudice rather than evidence”. Cal Horton criticised the Interim Report and other documents for prioritising research on aetiology of trans identities, saying: “Research into the causation of trans identities has a pathologized history, running parallel to efforts to prevent or cure transness.” Cal Horton also criticised the Interim Report’s support of exploratory therapy and its use of the terminology of “desistance”.
Various scholars also criticised the emphasis on high and moderate quality evidence, saying that paediatric care often relies on low quality evidence in other areas; that in downgrading qualitative research, the patient voice was minimised; and that the highest quality evidence (such as from randomised controlled trials) may be difficult or unethical to obtain in this area.
Forcing trans kids to undergo the wrong puberty under the demands double-blind trials is as wrong as forcing a cis child to undergo the wrong puberty for the same purpose (like David Reimer was forced to), it’s an unreasonable expectation given the clinical context of the treatment being so low risk and the outcomes being so positive.
What’s the regret rate for gender affirming care?
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I want the strongest possible set of information for this and any other question so we can make informed decisions. Right now there are more questions than answers.
It’s just like intelligent design and the “god of the gaps” arguments, where the space God/gods could have done their work slowly shrinks as our understanding of the world around us improves. I have no clue if we’ll ever close all the gaps, but every time intelligent design takes a hit, more people jump ship.
Imagine thinking that one Clarence Thomas is less corrupt than thousands of doctors.
Coming from Vance, I like how the logic underlying the statements presumes a profit motive undermines the result.
Stay classy, MAGA. You don’t give two shits about your country, you actually did steal an election, and the backwash is coming.
Did they steal an election ? Or did they still two elections ?
it’s going well.
also lol’ing at the fact that he’s jd-vance-1 because jd-vance was taken by a parody account which has a big banner reading “I did not fuck a couch”.
He’s not wrong about medical companies influencing patient care. He’s just wrong about who and why.
“Anyway, want a 6 months supply of Vicodin?” -The doctors he should actually be worried about.
Why? They pay him.
Sorry, I meant should as in if he actually gave a shit about what he pretends to give a shit about as a preface to target trans people.
Okay but we all know these fuckers believe in nothing.
If you don’t get that by now, you’re determined to not.
I…I’m fully aware. Thought that was pretty obvious from my last response…
( It was. )
So gotchas about it seem kinda… I dunno, a few steps behind?
Yeah, you’ve completely lost me. What do you mean by gotchas?
Exactly. Why would they give patients long out of patent meds that aren’t even habit forming for this? Nah, if you want to make money with medicine you gotta go the Sackler route. Every trans person I know’s HRT brand of choice is “generic please”
Not only that, but targeting the ~20% of the population that’s post-menopausal cis women with all the benefits of HRT would be a WAY bigger market than the 1-5% of the population that might be trans. If it was about making money on HRT, they’re certainly not going for a very large market.
Not only that, but wouldn’t Big Pharma™ be lobbying heavily against all the anti-trans healthcare bills? Seems like they’re doing a pretty awful job of maintaining their market.
They think their movement is beating pharma as their uncle forgets to breathe in the other room
Pretty sure he did that on purpose so he can tell the public how awful and disgusting he thinks Bluesky is in the future.
Oh absolutely. He’s a slimy little fuckstain.
Nah. This seems a transparent attempt to gather political good will. The Nazis have whipped our ass with their social-media ground game. This is simply another tentacle.
Por que no los dos? There’s no downside for him, either he can spread his hate there and win or he gets banned and screams and whines and wins
This isn’t how you start for good will.
They used to avoid the Mainstream Media, preferring their own bought and paid for Conservative Propaganda Machine, but that changed during HiterPig’s first term.
Suddenly, news outlets were excited to have MAGA Nazis come on their shows to spew lies and propaganda, with no challenge. They allowed the Traitors to use their airwaves to abuse the relationship that news orgs had built with their viewers. Viewers, trusting that relationship, often believed the lies, and gave MAGA undeserved credibility.
If they were going to let those jackals in their airwaves, the news media had the responsibility to use that opportunity to challenge the lies, and expose the MAGA Nazis for the traitors they are, but the media did nothing.
Yeah, I think it’s another step after the recent push of how “BlueSky is dying” because they actively reject assholes, that was going on last week.
Make a new account, immediately start spewing unsubstantiated conspiracy theories, get banned
I gotta say, I am liking blue sky so far
The biggest delusion in modern society is thinking that a Twitter-like social media network is “the place to go for common sense political discussion and analysis”.
I keep hearing the media repeat this bullshit. Twitter is not and never was the “public square”. It’s a place for morons to be morons and heart each other for being morons.
Makes me wonder if the actual public squares, sans idealization, were also a place for morons to be morons and heart each other for being morons.
It’s like having an argument in a club but in the club people may reconsider what you had to say upon sobering up
Apparently, they reinstated it saying they just wanted to confirm it was really him before fully activating it.
Corpos will never let you down. Only throw you there.
I was generally curious why posting that would get him banned. It’s def contrary to popular opinions on the platform but doesn’t violate any rules.
Good. Fuck that guy.
no thanks.
he’s got a face only a couch could fuck.
I know several brick walls that would love to fuck his face.
Isn’t he happy with his Truth Social account?
You can’t Own The Libs from over there
I still can’t believe that a deranged asshole like him is legally allowed to be VP of a nuclear power
BIG PHARMA MAKIN THE KIDS CUT THEY DICKS OFF
god republicans are stupid. So fucking stupid.
Remember, the likes of Vance aren’t stupid, they know the shit they say isn’t real but it riles their base up and creates enough anger that their base will ignore all the shit the republicans get up to.
More than that, it causes a knee jerk reaction from many liberals as well, and they end up defending a practice that is relevant to about 1% of voters, and isn’t that important to a very significant number of voters. So Ds waste a LOT of time defending a subject that isn’t very important to most people, instead of the issues they should be focused on, which will attract voters, like Medicare 4 All, or Student Loan Reform, etc.
The hormones used are basically all generics too
Yeah, Big Pharma is happy to fuck me in lots of ways, but the $20/month (without insurance even!) on my T shots ain’t it.
I always hated when I went to the school nurse for a bruised knee and got estrogen instead of having the bruise disinfected
My parents got really mad the day I came home as a girl. They were pissed! Made me go back to school the next day and get my penis re-installed.
Maybe your school nurse should swing by D.C. and reinstall some backbones.
That’s would be a fresh install, lots of structural work needs to be done so they don’t disappear.
But big religion doing it is OK, it’s just the tip.
Do you think JD understands the irony that posting an exerpt from Justice Thomas that is against appealing to the authority of “experts”, is, in itself, in fact appealing to the authority of an “expert”, Justice Thomas, to support his stance? His stance of course being that medical treatment of minors with gender dysphoria in a way that does anything but reinforce the gender on their birth certificate is bad medicine/science. And both Vance and Justice Thomas also, being… I see here “not experts in anything remotely to do with medical science, gender dysphoria, adolescent development, or any field at all that would inform any semblance of a valid opinion on the matter of how to properly treat these kids medically” might, in fact, make their stance a little bit non-authoritative. Maybe both of them should stay in their lanes of bad faith partisan political theatre, bribery, and forcing the sprint we are all on towards fascism. That seems to be where their real skill sets are.
Do you think JD understands
I’mma stop you right there and say no
it’s not even factually accurate since the majority of medical organizations agree there’s no harm in transitioning.
But what about the harm done to some other random dude who might find “a man in a dress” attractive and now questions his sexuality which is against God’s will?
/s
What about when a uh… random dude… finds a trans person attractive and likes what it does to his concept of self and sees it being “against god’s will” a bonus
asking for a friend
Those are the ones they are putting air quotes around as “experts” because they disagree with them, and therefore must be crackpots.
Vance isn’t talking to us. He’s talking to his supporters.
In their world, scientists are icky, and therefore can’t be trusted by red-blooded conservatives. Clarence Thomas, however, is GOP Approved.
Vance is somewhat of an expert on gender and sexuality though, being the cough fucker he is…
