Pick a border. Whichever you’re closest to. North or South. Look into making a plan. Crossing the border illegally is an option. Probably a better option if a draft is called. A charge and claiming asylum is preferable to being caught on the wrong side of a checkpoint. Fleeing war is a valid asylum claim pretty much anywhere on the planet.

Military recruitment has been all time low year over year for a decade or more. And Iran isn’t Iraq. That is a modern professional military armed and trained just as well as our guys. This won’t be a professional military vs an insurgency armed with homemade bombs and soviet era relics. If you want a peek at the attrition rates this war will have go look at the numbers coming out of the Ukraine war. On both sides.

Back when Bush’s War on Peace kicked off my dad made plans to get me out. He looked up an old war buddy he was in Vietnam with who lived in Canada. They planned to smuggle me across the woodlands. Not through an official crossing. Thankfully that plan never needed to be used. But he was serious. And I remember how serious he was.

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    You know that we outnumber them, right? You should work with your neighbors to stop the fascists, not run. Have this in your back pocket, sure, but don’t pull the trigger until the time comes. We can stop this. Their mask is already slipping. An utter nincompoop is the head of this thing.

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    No, crossing illegally is not an option.

    Crossing illegally into Mexico is a really stupid idea, crossing illegally into Canada is potentially less dumb, but also potentially really deadly if you do it wrong, because nature doesnt take prisoners up here in the wrong seasons.

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    The Zionist are trying their hardest to get us all into WW3. Russia will step up because they are allies with Iran (oil) then everyone gets out their nukes. Stop the Zionist from killing us all.

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    On Iran being a bigger enemy, let’s be very clear:

    If the US invades Iran it will walk straight over it as if the Iranian army wasn’t even there. This goes for pretty much every other country too, maybe China excluded. The US armed forces are extremely much more powerful than even the next 5 countries combined. Whatever the US wants to invade, it will invade and there is nothing any single country can do to stop it.

    Having said that

    The US is the absolute worst at keeping invaded territory. It sucked at Iraq, it laughably sucked in Afghanistan where it couldn’t keep the cou try against the equivalent of a bunch of goat herders. Of course it ended up killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians trying to do these things, but it failed.

    If and when the US invades Iran, be sure about it that it WILL fail. It will costs the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iranian civilians, men, women, children, especially if Israel is involved, but do understand: They WILL fail.

    They won’t fail because Iran is a country of fighters or anything like that. They will fail because Iran, like any other country, will keep resisting and they will keep stabbing the US like a cloud of hornets and once US soldiers have come home horizontally by the thousands, Cheeto will have to back down or face a guillotine himself. Something similar will happen with the Israeli army. They kick ass against stone throwing children and I’m sure that their armed forces will even be able to defeat the Iranian army by themselves but staying there? Keeping the newly conquered territories as a promised land? Good luck and prepare for a lot more dead Israelis.

    If any of them are dumb enough to use nukes it will be game over for them. If Israel or the US would use nukes then the world would not forgive or forget. During WWII there was a somewhat justified reason and one can argue that the nukes, in the end, caused less death and destruction than a conventional invasion of Japan would have done (same for a siege, hundreds of thousands, if not millions would have died from disease and starvation before they would have surrendered) but this is not an excuse either the US or Israel will have.

    So far the world sorta supports Israel Ina genocide (I can’t even understand that I have to write that) but once nukes go off, that is done, that is gone. Nukes go off and nowhere in the world you will be able to tell people that you’re American or Jewish anymore.

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      WWII was whitewashed.

      Japan was in the process of surrendering and the US knew it. They dropped the bombs in order to intimidate the soviets and say that the US won the war.

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      During WWII there was a somewhat justified reason and one can argue that the nukes, in the end, caused less death and destruction than

      At this point, it’s important to remember that the two bombs were dropped after the US had learned Japan intended to surrender.

      With that data point in mind, recalculate for war crimes.

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    I was in college for Iraq War I and too old for Iraq War II.

    My kid is now aged out for this one, thank goodness!

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      Iirc, current law allows for drafting from 18 to 26. No idea what would be required just to reinstate a draft, whether that would be a presidential declaration, law change, or something else entirely.

      Edit: [this song] (https://youtu.be/0sajngb0W6I) may answer your question better

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        Ideally, there shouldn’t be a draft. That’s why we have the Reserves; so we don’t need to enact a draft ever again.

        Source: I served for 20 years in the US military. When the 2003 Iraq War kicked off, a bunch of people joined the Reserves to say they were doing their part without actually having to do anything. They were shocked when we sent them to war first.

        The active duty military were already running operations at dozens of bases around the globe. We couldn’t just drop everything and go join a war. So we sent the Reserves to set up new bases in the Middle East and started trickling in active duty members as the bases became more established. I didn’t get to Iraq until 2007.

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          Source: I served for 20 years in the US military. When the 2003 Iraq War kicked off, a bunch of people joined the Reserves to say they were doing their part without actually having to do anything. They were shocked when we sent them to war first.

          This is the intended effect of the Abrams Doctrine. After the abuse of presidential power that got the US into the Vietnam Conflict, Gen. Creighton Abrams wanted to make sure the entire country would feel the hit of the US’ bellicose nature and to put a check on presidents wielding military power. Of course, these good intentions always get warped and SecDef Laird’s Total Force Policy basically found a loophole for maintaining a larger fighting force that could be called up while playing Three Card Monty with the budgets.