I think you’re just seeing a representation of the times compounded by 30 Rocks refusal to engage seriously with a single social issue. Not to downplay any of it but the racism in that show was very Obama-era Carlos Mencia “racism is funny not hateful” type of rhetoric. Definitely problematic at the time even if you ignore the longer-term consequences. Honestly every single of representation of social progress or liberation in 30 Rock is truly awful down to Liz Lemon Feminism™️.

Anyway I don’t think Tina’s writing is inherently hateful, it’s just lib as hell and she doesn’t want to actually try to engage with any real issue.

Pretty much every popular American media franchise, from films to television programmes to streaming and comic books, has firm roots in heteronormative oppression & the best you ever see for representation is surface-level. There’s always backtracking to bigotry & appealing to the lowest common denominator. You can’t expect any of this shit to be truly intersectional or free of discriminatory elements.

Examples of surface-level representatives:

“Here’s a black woman on our film, you saw her right? We’re not racist or misogynist.” “Here’s a gay man on our show, you saw him right? We’re not homophobic.” “Here’s a trans man on our show, you saw him right? We’re not transphobic.” “Here’s a nonbinary pansexual unicorn on our show. You saw them, right? We don’t kink-shame.”

It fucking never ends & it’s all for you to buy their new shiny bullshit next time.

Okay, long story short: I know how hard-left this sub is, and I’m pretty much to the left myself. I can’t stand crooked liberals. I fiercely support Black Lives, and I think we need reform badly. But I happen to enjoy some movies/shows/games that have lib characters. And I’m getting beyond fed up seeing a certain show (30 Rock) that impacted me so much get attacked from the let in this manner. Basically, I don’t agree with how some in the hard left keep holding it up as “transphobic” or “racist”, which it isn’t, and people accusing it of “getting comedies should punch up wrong” when in reality, the show is an allegory for liberal hypocrisy as a whole. Like, I don’t find crap like this funny. I find it infuriating. Because it’s not true. Some hard leftists accuse the film of missing the mark because Tracy Morgan was actually caught uttering homophobic slurs, or Alec Baldwin killing a set worker and using his wealth and privilege to avoid responsibility. That’s not meant to symbolize anything in real life, it’s just something that happened with those privileged liberals in a show about liberal New Yorkers. It doesn’t clash with the movie’s messaging at all. It’s not “racist” or “transphobic” because reasons, okay. Like for example, when Liz reported her neighbor for suspected terrorism, or when she assumed that Tracy is illiterate, or when she doxx’d Cristin Miloti’s character, Liz was portrayed to be in the wrong. I discussed this before in BreadTube and CompleteAnarchy. I’m asking you how you feel about this because I once encountered a thread in this sub mocking Liz Lemon, doing the whole “all liberals are bad” thing, and I was legit upset by it. If you think I’m some kind of idiot, weirdo or loser for getting so emotional about a network TV show aimed at liberals that’s part of a big corporation that’s your right. But people have been sharing “Judy’s a pig, smash the state” memes in the Zootopia sub. And as someone who can’t watch certain scenes in the show without crying my eyes out, they really bothered me and I didn’t think they were fair at all.

I can’t remember this. Might be a sign of my awareness when I first saw it 10 years ago or something