• Owl@lemm.ee
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      4 days ago

      a vagina alone has 6, so this is hardly accurate.

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        No, in topology those are pretty much just indents (I.E irrelevant)

        For a hole to be considered a hole, it has to go through an object.

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          Booooo. We all know what a hole is, don’t bring topology into this. I’ll give you a plate for your drinks at my house if you pull this silliness.

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            Wait, do you consider cups to be portable holes for liquids?

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              If you don’t see the difference between a cup and a plate because they’re the same topologically then I’m gonna use them interchangeably around you.

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                Of course they are different. But they aren’t holes lol.

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                  I’m not going to stand for this hole trutherism. If you take a shovel and dig, you have made a hole. We have called that a hole forever. Usage dictates meaning.

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          see, this is why everyone hates topology and their silly yet weirdly true rules.

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          Wait… do holes that meet up with other holes count as separate holes? The nostrils meet up with the mouth hole but then combined they go through to the anus. Do those count as three distinct holes, since looking at each of them individually they would count as a hole? Or would there be one hole with… four openings?

          ETA: I have more questions. Do all the openings need to be open to still be considered a hole? Is it only a hole if all my sphincters are open and my mouth is open? If I’m getting choked but my mouth is open and I’m trying to breathe, does my mouth to nostrils count as a hole themselves? Do my nostrils automatically count as a hole as long as one or both isn’t stuffed up?

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            Wait… do holes that meet up with other holes count as separate holes? The nostrils meet up with the mouth hole but then combined they go through to the anus. Do those count as three distinct holes, since looking at each of them individually they would count as a hole? Or would there be one hole with… four openings?

            Yep, they are considered separate holes. So for example. “Mouth to the ass” is one hole and the two nostrils add two holes to the total.

            ETA: I have more questions. Do all the openings need to be open to still be considered a hole? Is it only a hole if all my sphincters are open and my mouth is open? If I’m getting choked but my mouth is open and I’m trying to breathe, does my mouth to nostrils count as a hole themselves? Do my nostrils automatically count as a hole as long as one or both isn’t stuffed up?

            I don’t think it really matters how big the hole is so as long as the opening isn’t fused maybe it still counts as a hole. But really, I think whenever your mouth is open or not is out of scope for topology.

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        Probably not everyone’s, but I’d be willing to bet that the total number of exceptions to the rule either greater or fewer than pretty nearly cancel each other out, on average.

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      I’m really curious how you got that number? I guess eye sockets aren’t counted, as topologically with how many of the tubes connect, it’s probably something weird.

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                I did consider that in a comment I wrote deeper in the thread, but if you put it like that, the concept of “hole” doesn’t even make sense anymore

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              OP claimed there are 7 holes. Holes don’t need an exit, and I’d like to know where you think inserting something into an orbit will naturally come out in a person you want to survive the experience.

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                Topological holes are through-holes. If there is no exit, you could continuously deform the shape until the hole is gone

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                The human body has 7 holes” is most likely a reference to [this vsauce video], and admittedly said video is the entirety of my knowledge on topology;

                that should answer “I’m really curious how you got that number”, and… probably the comment I’m replying to?

                I’m not sure I understand your rhetorical curiosity, but humans usually insert food in their mouth which is then pushed through the entire through-hole while being exposed to gastric acid and whatnot; another example are tears, entering the openings in the eyelids and coming out of the nostrils.
                Urine is instead chemically produced by the kidneys, and, unless you consider the space between molecules (which AFAIK is not within the domain of topology), that doesn’t count as one shape traversing a through-hole of another.

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        4 lacrimal ducts, 2 nostrils, 1 mouth and 1 anus = 8 interconnected holes. Subtract 1 (because a proper donut hole needs both an entrance and an exit) and you get 7.

        I guess it could be argued that women have an extra hole, as there is a passage through each fallopian tube into the pelvic cavity.

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    All y’all are some vanilla prudes, missing out on the lacrimal ducts.

    11 hole action or GTFO.

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      We’ve got 7! Four in the eyes, two in the nose, and one digestive! The rest are just topological cavities. Oh and extras for every piercing you have.

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                That’s just idiotic.

                I hope this helps:

                ChatGPT prompt: Explain a tube to a 3 year old

                A tube is like a long, empty straw. It’s round and has holes at both ends. You can use it to drink or to let things go through it. Think of it this way: if you have a roll of toilet paper, the inside part is a tube. It’s just a round shape that is empty inside!

                EDIT: Instead of the term opening the LLM uses the term hole colloquially here - just as a scholar of topology would to explain the concept of e.g. an annulus or torus to a student. This highlights that you shouldn’t be anal about a “topological hole” while discussing openings. Actually - let’s be real - common language terminology should always be applied first and foremost unless there is specific context.

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                  oh wow if some fucking tech bro ripped an arbitrary jumble of words from internet samples, then it must be the end of the conversation!

                  god, you’re so smart, AI is such a great learning tool, you don’t even have to listen to anyone or understand anything, just get a prompt to throw some shit together and you win!

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              A pipe has 1 hole, a cup has zero holes. A pipe is equivalent to a disc with a hole in the center since you can flatten it into that, a cup is equivalent to a disc with no hole because it can be flattened into that

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                *openings

                Amazing, we went from how many openings the human body has to an anatomically incorrect human digestive system to a pipe and then to a cup being a disc.

                So you mix the words opening and holes as is possible in common language and then proceed to be anal about the term hole in context of topology. While a scholar of topology uses the common word hole to explain the concept of e.g. an annulus or torus to a student it is not a defined term per se.

                For the sake of argument I’ll accept your incorrect application of the term hole as in a pipe having only one hole. This would still mean it has at least 2 openings. In the context of OP (human digestive system) an entry point (mouth) and an exit (anus).

                BTW - you shall henceforth consume liquids only from platters and are required to use the word berry only in the biological correct sense (e.g.: straw-thingy, black-thingy, rasp-thingy, cucumberry, pumpberry, pinemultifruit, etc. pp. - have fun)

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                Please go and ask a plumber this question. Preferably a relative at a family gathering and in front of everyone. This will bring enjoyment for years to come.

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    That is an unusually low number, but I’m certain we can work something out.

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    So… Mouth, nose… Does nose count as one or two? And the ears… Wait, thats already too many. How does she have only three?

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          Aww, too bad. I actually generally try not to tease about typos, I’ve made plenty myself, but occasionally I can’t resist. Decent chance there’s one in this comment and, just for fun, I’m not even going to proofread!

          Thanks for being a good sport about it. For any future readers, the unedited post said “moth” instead of “mouth.”

          Hope that, whatever part of your day it is, it’s a good one.