This is so dumb. They weren’t originally named after a bird, they were named after a type of footstool.
Ask Serj Tankian how he feels about the government of Turkiye.
A not insignificant amount of people probably know as much, or more, about System of a Down than they do about Turkiye… and thus likely know Turkiye as ‘that beautiful, diverse country that is unfortinately still run by an autocrat who won’t acknowledge past/ongoing ethnic repression and genocide.’
The bird is named after the country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey_(bird)#Names
(So now when they’ve renamed the country, the bird ought to be renamed too.)
Islam.
I hate Turkey because I played Kinght Online back in the day and it went from most people speaking English (as it was a global mmo) to everyone speaking Turkish basically overnight.
So basically the Turks conquered the online territory I was part of.
People hate us turks for various reasons.
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They visited turkey as tourists and were exploited through high prices, haggling, rude and impatient service sector workers
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They met some of the brainwashed assholes that are sucking up to the current dictator
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They have an immigrant community of turks in their country that don’t assimilate
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They are or have connections to a historical group of people with bad blood with turks (serbs, greeks, armenians) NB : I do not think that those people are bad.
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Because the current state of the country is a fucking disaster for various perspectives
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BECAUSE TÜRKİYE NUMBER VAN BAYBEE, DATS VHY I LIVE DIASPORA TIME! IS NICE!
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Nah it’s terrible here. I hate this country and can’t wait to leave especially as a queer person
The German word for this bird is “Pute”. I guess it’s called after the French.
Oder Truthahn
How is that pu pronounced? Like pew or poo?
poo-tuh
Lol that means something completely different in spanish haha. Spelled puta though.
“Pute” specifically means the domesticated version of the “Truthuhn”.
The French word is “dinde”, and the ethmology IIRC is “from India” (d’Inde)
Now, in French, “pute” is a derogatory term for a prostitute.
From “poule d’inde”, litterally “hen from India”, which got shortend as such things tend to be. And it replaced the delicious Christmas goose for a while because it was “exotic”.
In turkey the bird is named Hindi, after India. In the Netherlands is called after Calicut. In Portugal, it’s called after Peru, however in Arabic it’s an Ethiopian rooster. In Malaysia is called a Dutch bird.
The explanation is that people through America was India, hence calling it after India a lot (Peru being what Portugese thought was America).
However the people who first encountered the bird they thought it loaded like a particular woodfoul that was imported from Turkey, calling it a turkey bird.
India and other Asian countries only know it from European trade, calling it either Turkey, Dutch chicken or something else like fire bird (china).
Maybe it’s because of it’s autocrat leader?
Right? That country started backsliding democratically a while ago. They’ve suffered from nationalism, populism, and conservatism that landed them essentially a right wing authoritarian. The fact that trump likes Erdogan should be warning enough that all is not well in Turkey.
to me its also the turkish persecution of and brutal fight against the kurdish movement, where they will go as far as bombing civilians even outside their own country and work with islamist militias
Don’t forget the Armenian Genocide.
bombing civilians even outside their own country and work with islamist militias
To be fair that’s what most of NATO is/were doing.
On a business trip, with some HQ people we visited the partially owned branch of our company in Ankara last year.
We had a super nice and MBA-educated host from investor relations lead us through the day. It was all going well, until a few drinks into dinner, he shared how the CIA funded the terrorist Gülen to ruin the country, and that’s why they have high inflation, etc. I of course smiled along, but was surprised he thinks this way.
I am originally from an eastern European authoritarian country, and 99% of my experience have been that white collar people are cynical and hate the shit government, even if they have to go along with the bullshit propaganda to keep their jobs.
Also, their capital Ankara is quite the shithole, sorry. It has sparkling skyscrapers, but it’s orders of magnitudes behind in livability compared to even to poor European capitals in the Balkans. Blackouts in a luxury hotel, asphalt breaking off the road an hitting our car, concrete jungle of multi-lane roads with no walkability, fast asshole-style driving (not even letting ambulance pass) causing massive traffic.
It’s just a very different world and culture.
Taxi drivers in Turkey are a fucking nightmare to deal with
All drivers in Turkey are a nightmare to deal with.
What is the most popular tv series in nato?
Figured that would be EuroVision or whatever that music competition is called. Which is not from the US.
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Those are seperate points
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It’s probably “what’s fatmagül’s fault?”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatmag%C3%BCl'%C3%BCn_Su%C3%A7u_Ne%3F-
That bird Is called Turkey in English
It’s called India (translated) in Turkish, and many European languages
In India it is also named after Turkey
The Arabic word for it translates to East Africa
Malaysians call it Dutch Chicken
In Cambodia its French chickenAnd the fucking bird comes from North America
It’s called India (translated) in Turkish, and many European languages
TIL that “kalkun” (danish word for turkey, the bird) actually comes from Calcutta, as in the modern day city of Kolkata in India. Wow.
Same, but “kalkon” in swedish.
I felt slightly smug before I learned that haha
In Portuguese is called Perú
just to clarify, the bird is called peru. Peru (another country) is called Peru and Turkey is called Turquia
i felt the need to clarify because i feel people might think you meant Peru is how we call Turkey (country).
edit: it’s both peru with a normal u, not a ú
This thread needs a diagram.
So there are two countries named Turkey? 🤔
in portuguese the country peru is called peru, the turkey (bird) is called peru, and turkey (country) is called turquia
so only one is actually called turkey, sadly
edit: none of the peru have a ú, i’m dumb
Both the country and the bird are spelled Peru, no ú in either.
wait what do i not know my own language
i just looked it up, ur right
In Australia it’s called landgoose
so like, close, but no cigar.
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In French, Quebec/Canada specifically, it’s called Dinde. A shortening of coq/poule/poulet d’inde.
Which translates to Indian cock/hen/chick.
It’s mainly cus settlers brought it back Europe thinking they were in India.
they thought the bird came from Turkey iirc, that’s why it’s named like that. 🦃
My Armenian neighbors would like to have a word
they killed our civilians, we have words for this too
“an unfortunate and voluntary relocation”, according to Turkey.
But everyone else can summarize in a single word, it starts with a G
armenia repeatedly declined the invitation for discussing this matter in court and opening their archives. all of your ideas about the turk-armenian conflicts are put in your head by propaganda. armenian lobby is strong in the us and also in eu.
“System of a Down are paid actors”
- this person, probably
you can fight with windmills and put words in my mouth all you want. lobbying in us and eu is very clear. if you are certain that turks committed genocide in eastern anatolia lets all open our archives in court and discuss this matter clear and openly. even pashinyan avoided this matter recently.
Lobbying from a small nation with no money, resources or military power, that doesn’t even buy our stuff and snuggles up to Russia for protection? I don’t really see how that would work. It doesn’t check out with the behaviour of US/EU other conflicts, like Israel or Armenia-Azerbaijan, where we immediately sided with the party that had oil/gas and bought our weapons.
I’m willing to have my mind changed, but the gut feeling doesn’t really point that way here
Let’s think about the country and see if we can come up with any possible problems somebody might have with it.
Yes it’s in NATO but I’m pretty certain that NATO simply has them because they would prefer to have them inside pissing out.
What is/are these tv series?
idk either. maybe anon is from turkey and thinks they’re more popular than they actually are?
It’s probably “what’s fatmagül’s fault?”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatmag%C3%BCl'%C3%BCn_Su%C3%A7u_Ne%3F
It’s probably “what’s fatmagül’s fault?”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatmag%C3%BCl'%C3%BCn_Su%C3%A7u_Ne%3FI think he means in general https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-worlds-second-highest-tv-series-exporter-after-us-73478
oh that makes sense, i did not know about that
I would be surprised if this were still true given the popularity of East Asian television shows these days.
Really want to know as well :(
Do people actually hate Turkish people? I know they can be obnoxious in online games, but in real life they are pretty wholesome. And I think It’s generally the same for all Turkic peoples, but I haven’t met many.
Greece isn’t fond
Well, there’s the human rights violations, the denial of the genocide they committed, the complete tyrant that’s ruining their country…
People hate Turkish people because they hate immigrants (for no reason), and there’s some Turkish immigrant community in Europe.
