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    They share some inspiration. Same with Linux/Unix confusion.

    About 15 minutes in a terminal trying to do Linux’y things are you get completely disillusioned.

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    Lmfao. My fucking lead was arguing with me the other day how Linux is Unix. I just said ok after I saw that it was going nowhere.

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    I remember a podcast I used to listen to a long time ago that argued that MS should just make a fork of the Linux kernel and just make the gui work like Windows. Better security and stability, and huge increase in user base with all the normal Linux users seeing it as viable alternative. I thought it was a brilliant idea. Well except Microsoft would likely have figured a way to kill Linux from the inside.

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      Except for the part where decades’ worth of software no longer runs on Windows.

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        Seriously, Microsoft’s absurd level of commitment to backwards compatibility is the entire reason Windows has such staying power. I had to fuck around with things to get a Linux port of a ten year old game running without issues, and it was even the Steam version, but Windows will install and run most twenty year old games right off of the original CD without the user having to do anything at all.

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          That compatability has been dropping recently, especially for games. Most of my CD games need extra libraries to run now, if they work at all.

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          I hear this a lot but in production I still see xp/win 7 era PC’s all the time due to comparability issues (half the time still online too :/ )

          Maybe its just absurd support for big spenders like the US military?

          Seems like the small companies are mostly getting burned by gambling on MS

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      That is the literal opposite of what the world needs.

      Windows isn’t a bad OS from a purely technical perspective. If Windows were released as FOSS, I would switch to Windows without hesitation.

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        The full Microsoft XP source code was leaked and is available for anyone on GitHub; not the same, I know, but it’s atleast NT based. I’ve just always wondered why a community never formed to fork it

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          Because it’s not legal and no one’s going to develop software for XP. Someone could make and sell security patches for it, but the type of person who still runs XP either doesn’t care enough to buy security patches or it’s running some hardware that isn’t connected to the internet.

          There are exactly two games released in the past few years that have XP support, but that was more a flex on the part of the developer then catering to the market. HROT and Zortch are those games if you’re curious.

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        Are you sure it’s not bad from a technical perspective? I saw a story from a former programmer talking about how changes would be made the to the interface in the new settings app that’s trying to replace control panel and the shit was like a horror story.

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          Mostly because Microsoft tries to maintain backwards compatibility to ridiculous extents, and their customers grew accustomed to it so they kinda rely on it, no ?

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              Sure, and for home users the backwards compatibility feature only really comes up for people into retro-gaming, but a significant portion of their customer base is government agencies that haven’t updated their software since the '90s. The old hardware is dying, so they need new stuff, and that means something with a new OS to run it, but it also needs to be able to run an ancient program that can only be replaced if some some seventy-something who calls every console a Nintendo can be made to understand why software older than their grandkids isn’t the best thing to have, and they might need to introduce and pass a bill to get it done, not to mention budgeting to commission a company to code the replacement.

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            The windows kernel isn’t all that great, particularly in the realm of memory security or scheduling.

            You know, to each their own. Question is really whether windows maintaining a closed source kernel even makes sense from a maintenance burden perspective when it really doesn’t give them much money in return. (Most of their money in 2025 comes from cloud services, not operating systems)

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              Rumors (Yes, just rumors, I know) have it that MS is working on a shim to be able to just use the Linux kernel under the hood. That’s what spawned WSL. It is a side effect of the work to get the shim between the Win64 userland and Linux kernel. The shim will probably be a temporary thing, until all the ABIs are done.

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          maybe, but there are also things it arguably does better than Linux, e.g. user access control

          (If you can still find this story, I’d be very interested in it, please do link to it here.)

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    Oh it’s infamous racist Bryan Lunduke. Is there no rule against posting that guy?

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        Just check his video titles.

        Even without it, that snark face he uses for the thumbnails are a very big tell.

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        He’s an anti-woke crusader and bigot. A large chunk (probably most) of his “content” is actually about that.

        CW all sorts of bigotry

        “Best Alternatives to Woke Software”, “Devuan: The Non-Woke Debian Linux Fork”, lots of shit like that.

        He loves talking about so-called “reverse racism”, he thinks white people are oppressed in US tech.

        Here’s a recent one:

        https://lunduke.substack.com/p/meta-ending-del-ending-fact-checking

        They [Meta] are allowing criticism of LGTBQ+blublublub issues, including *snicker* the statement that gay people are mentally ill […] and they’re allowing vaccine skepticism on the platform […] and it is, I’m not gonna lie, mildly hilarious.

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        I don’t have a list of specific instances on hand. But he was kind of a contrarian voice for a while that I listened to over a decade ago, but in 2016 went in the more anti-woke (anti-CRT in terms of the time) and very reactionary culture war turn.

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        Ahhh give him a break he probably just forgot. If it helps, I’m sure he was thinking something horrible about somebody reasonably nice. /s

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    No it’s not, it’s based on BSD, or more specifically Darwin, which is derived from BSD, so Unix-like, but not Linux.

    Although, oddly, macOS is a certified UNIX OS so it can rightfully sit at the table with the SysV distros such as AIX, HP-UX, or Solaris, but it’s nothing like those OSes in its nature.

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      While I was doing OS-X stuff, I remember Darwin just being a really painfully bad implementation of the apt functionality in Debian based Linuxes… Potaytoe, Potahtoe, Darwin is like burnt house fries, IMO.

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      Just remember that they didn’t certify macOS for any practical reason, Apple was just weaseling out of a lawsuit and figured that paying the certification was cheaper than damages. I think they lost the certification some time later. Newer macOS is not Unix certified.

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    The video claims ada lovelace did not write the first computer program but it would kind of depend how you define what that is. If you check wikipedia it states:

    “During 1842–1849, Ada Lovelace translated the memoir of Italian mathematician Luigi Menabrea about Charles Babbage’s newest proposed machine: the Analytical Engine; she supplemented the memoir with notes that specified in detail a method for calculating Bernoulli numbers with the engine, recognized by most of historians as the world’s first published computer program.”

    From : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_programming_languages

    This would indicate its not a cut and dry as the youtuber suggests and also I would assume he is not a historian(no clue who he is) so its unclear why his opinion or definition of computer program should usurp that of most historians who would recognise a term may change over time and be less well defined initially when inspiring a new technology?

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      This would indicate its not a cut and dry as the youtuber suggests and also I would assume he is not a historian(no clue who he is) so its unclear why his opinion or definition of computer program should usurp that of most historians who would recognise a term may change over time and be less well defined initially when inspiring a new technology?

      He’s a long-standing member of the tech pundit community (dare I say the Linux community), and in recent years has been exposed as antivax, anti-woke, and a bigot. Before that he was just a confident sounding asshole with sometimes interesting opinions.

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        Fair. I didnt check any of the other myths so some may well be myths. Just interesting to me that his opinion is stated as fact when its a bit of a grey area and one could easily interpret her to be the first programmer in some ways. Its not like a computer has to exist to write a computer program, for example, you can imagine a world where all computers are destroyed in an event but a surviving programmer can still write a computer program if you just handed them a stone tablet and charcoal. The non existence of a computer isnt a problem, and a computer program written in a textbook is also valid.

        The mac osx is linux certainly is a less controversial myth.

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    macOS is UNIX, certified UNIX actually.

    But I mean, if someone had the merest impression of macOS and was very familiar with Linux and never bothered to look any further then I’d understand. Maybe they only played around with macOS a little and saw the terminal app had bash and most all the familiar tools as on Linux. It’s not hard to see why they might’ve thought it’s Linux based.

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      macOS is a certified UNIX, sure, but according to some 2002 specification, and if you modify your system in such matter that it will be in nearly broken state.

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      I think 10% of people believe nearly anything. It’s basically the rounding error for a survey.

      Honestly, if you had asked me 10 minutes ago “Is MacOS based on Linux?” I would have gotten it wrong. But if you asked “Is MacOS based on UNIX or Linux?” I would have gotten it right.

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        It is now, but it was bash before.

        But in any case once you start doing anything remotely advanced you’ll find the individual command line utilities are wildly different between macOS and Linux. They seem (are?) much closer to FreeBSD than GNU utilities.

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          Yeah, it’s always fun to find out that a standard looking util on osx actually requires weird args and syntax.

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            I’m mostly used to it now. Though -r is supported in macOS’ rm command I still prefer -R and use it even on Linux where I believe -r is the preferred argument.

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      That license does nothing.

      Your comments aren’t licensed because you put something in them. It’s stopping nothing. Licensing is an agreement, and requires parties to consent. You don’t just magically force licenses onto people.

      If this was real I could license my comments where if you read them, you owe me 10k.

      This is the digital equivalent of sovereign citizens.

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        I don’t think it’s equivalent to sovereign citizens. OP is the author of their comment and therefore has the copyrights. As the author one can license their work as all rights reserved or other permissive licenses.

        OP chooses to license their work as Creative Commons.

        They’re not forcing you to accept the license, it’s your local government that enforces copyright.

        The reason why this might work on Lemmy but not on corporate Social media is that corporate social media often have terms of service that require you to give them ownership/rights/etc. Lemmy has no such ToC.

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          This would vary by instance. I don’t see that lemmy.world specifies the terms for user content, which really should be fixed.

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            It’s a hard problem in the fediverse. It makes for a ticking time bomb of an issue. Imagine I am on a “everything is your own, we don’t sell your stuff” instance while another instance just copy pasted metas ToS. By posting a response to my instance, which then in turn is federated to the meta style instance I create something hard to solve. I can foresee other issues too.

            I see your point. I just think it’s a difficult problem.

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          The reason why this might work on Lemmy but not on corporate Social media is that corporate social media often have terms of service that require you to give them ownership/rights/etc. Lemmy has no such ToC.

          Actually, Safe Harbor laws would encompass social media sites as well, so it would work there as well.

          Either corporations own the content you post and are responsible for it, or they just host your content you post that you own and are immune from harm for the content. The law is currently the latter, and not the former.

          Also, law trumps ToS’s.

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            I don’t think the ToS approach would be invalidated here via your Safe Harbor fork theory.

            The ToS could state something like “you give us a worldwide perpetual right to use your content in any way we want including granting this right to whom we designate”

            You still own your content but by having an account you agree to the ToS that lets them do what they want.

            They just host it and are safe.

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              TOS can’t change Law, can’t strip away rights that you have.

              Law always trumps TOS.

              In fact, if a company tries to via their TOS they are opening themselves up for big risks/lawsuits, as they are trying to gain ownership of your content, voiding their Safe Harbor law protections.

              They can’t have it both ways, thats not how the Law works. Either they have the protection, or they own the content.

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        So, if I go to a library, pick a book and start reading it, I am then free to completely copy it because I didn’t agree to any licensing?

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            No, it doesn’t matter if the book is at a library or on my friend’s bookshelf, copyright law is literally the right to copy the thing. So if I make an illegal copy, I’m breaking copyright law. The “ToS” I’ve “agreed” to is the law of the country I’m in.

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          I am getting annoyed on your behalf lol. Why do people feel the need to screech at others doing something harmless when they could just shut up and ignore it is beyond me. Not a fair comparison but it does feel like republicans shouting at trans people.

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            Thanks, appreciate the support!

            It’s amazing how bent out of shape some people get about this, both currently, as well as about tenish months ago when I last was on Lemmy (check out my comment history from that time period if you really want to get annoyed).

            I got to imagine that its people who want to farm the comments for their LLMs training, that are trying to prevent the popular usage of people licensing their content.

            This comment is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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              Honestly I don’t believe it would help myself but who am I to tell you what to do. As someone else mentioned, it’s probably people who simply have to correct others when they don’t share the option. Doubt it would be anything like being in support of LLMs, probably the opposite.

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                Honestly I don’t believe it would help myself

                It would help if the companies that are training their LLMs honor content creators licenses. If they ignore the law in that, then it would in theory need to be policed.

                In either case, its a quick copy/paste on my part, so /shrug.

                As someone else mentioned, it’s probably people who simply have to correct others when they don’t share the option. Doubt it would be anything like being in support of LLMs, probably the opposite.

                I don’t know. It would behoove those who need our content to train their LLMs to intimidate/redirect people away from licensing their content. And I can’t imagine regular people getting so caught up to spend so much time on this issue. If you look through my comment history, starting 9-10 months ago, and see how many replies I’ve gotten, and even how posts talk about this issue (https://lemmy.world/post/14942506), I can’t imagine a single link would cause all of that. Theres got to be something more to it than that.

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                  I was around when that was an active topic back then so I am aware. It’s just I don’t trust any or most companies to respect it anyway. Also as someone else suggested, look into automation lol, I thought you had something like an email signature that gets added automatically.

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                  In either case, its a quick copy/paste on my part, so /shrug.

                  I was thinking “okay this somewhat unconventional but whatever” until I read this. Use greasemonkey or something for the love of Christ!

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              And I’m assuming just having “all content licesed under the CC BY-NC-SA 4.0” in your bio wouldn’t work?

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                And I’m assuming just having “all content licesed under the CC BY-NC-SA 4.0” in your bio wouldn’t work?

                I’m not sure if I understand your question.

                I believe it does work. Or at least it should, and I shouldn’t give up my right to license my own content just because enforcement of laws is lax.

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            Do you spend a lot of time arguing with people over it?

            Allot more than I wish, I really try not to. Even today, I keep asking people to not rehash it, and lets just talk about the topic my comment was posted in. But for some strange reason people just won’t let it go, and push to talk about it.

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              Well like it or not, your footer is just a part of your comments, and so people are invited to respond however they wish when you post it on lemmy. If you don’t like people making the same replies, you can simply stop posting the same content in every comment.

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                Well like it or not, your footer is just a part of your comments, and so people are invited to respond however they wish when you post it on lemmy.

                That logic doesn’t track though, as that content is just a footer, it is not the actual content of what’s being discussed in the post, which is what people should be responding to.

                It would be the same as if for every comment I made on a subject it opposed people instead started asking me questions about my username, and not discussing the subject of the post.

                If you don’t like people making the same replies, you can simply stop posting the same content in every comment.

                You really shouldn’t be “blaming the victim” on this one.

                Even if what you said previously is true, when a person has been directed to a location where an answer to their question has already been given, and they refuse to do so, but instead continue to badger the person directly, that’s detrimental to the conversation being had (by derailing it), as well as I would argue to Lemmy itself. And if done enough times on purpose could be considered harassment.

                People should not be able to dictate what other people put in their comments, and should definitely not harass them continuously over what they have in their comments.

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        woosh

        This comment is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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          In case you want your license declaration to look the same as mine (instead of just being a quote), you can copy and paste in the following text …

          [~This~ ~comment~ ~is~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0~](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en)

          This comment is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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        The return of the forum signatures, whether you like it or not.

        Mines going to be an ad from NordVPN and maybe Apex Legends? I wonder what’s their rate like? 🤷‍♂️

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            Nope, the opposite: in the absence of an explicit license, the default is “all rights reserved.”

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            I don’t think just thanking someone is real content. /shrug

            (Edit: I also declare all that I post/comment is licensed by me as well, in my user account description area.)

            But answering someone who thinks they are being funny or annoying, by explaining things to them, would be considered content by me.

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              I kind of suspected it might be something like that, but it was a genuine query that, yes, was intended to be mildly humorous. I don’t intentionally annoy except maybe my wife.

              Your indirect accusation made me smirk, but as far as I’ve noticed you’re the only one who does this without doing it on every comment, which seemed interesting enough to observe.

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                  Ah. Well, I have questions or comments I could make about the license. However, while I feel passionately about Unix and Linux and OSS in general, I don’t think I have anything useful or interesting to add to the thread that hasn’t already been said.

                  I wish you luck both with finding engaging conversation and with your licensing.

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        You are not new to lemmy, it says you registered a year ago, but is this the first time you meet a comment with license info? You are one of today’s lucky 10000.

        I’ve seen this on multiple users, usually it’s some anti ai license. Like the laws stopped facebook from torrenting copyrighted books, an anti ai license will stop the next ai startup scraping the fediverse.

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          23 hours ago

          I’m only aware of myself, and the one other person who I learned to do this from, on Lemmy. That was tenish months ago, but still.

          I haven’t seen anyone else, even the other person I mentioned previously, since having returned to Lemmy recently.

          Be nice if you were right, but I haven’t seen it really.

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