Back in my day we used to have a social credit score. Of course we just called it a “reputation”.
american propaganda machine: “Chinese people are BRAINWASHED to LOATHE everything about America and ALL aspects of us and our lives”
xiaohongshu:
“hello american send picture of cat ☺️☺️”
“you’re saying you need a loan just to go to college, and the rich buy their way in? how bad are these loans you speak of? 😧”
“welcome foreigner pls pay cat tax 😊”
“medical treatment is really very difficult for many of you? i heard some things were expensive there but i had no idea it was that bad, i’m sorry 😞”
Genuinely terrifying to the Western propagandists, westerners realizing that Chinese are…normal human beings who empathize with them
already seen a few people claiming the chinese users are “bots created by the CCP,” the propaganda runs DEEP
Xi is just trying to amass the world’s largest collection of cat pictures
Pay your Hexbear tax now! Post your pet
I don’t have any pets.
Acceptable. Move along now.
Saw a post on there yesteraday where someone couldn’t believe some of us work 2 jobs just to be able to afford rent and food. I really hope this opens a lot of westerners eyes to to what is and isn’t propaganda.
I never understood what is bad about “working 2 jobs”. (I don’t live in the US.) Is two 20 hour jobs not the same as one 40 hour job?
Two 20 hour jobs is optimistic. Part-time is considered anything under 35 hours a week. It’s much more likely you’re going to be stuck trying to squeeze two 30 hour jobs into a single week because neither job is going to consider the schedule of the other and you’re going to be caught in between. And as others have said, neither jobs are going to give you the benefits a 40 hour job should be giving you, but are often screwing you out of because, in the US, pretty much nothing but cheap healthcare is guaranteed for 40 hours now.
Not to mention most jobs are gig work now. I haven’t had a full time job with benefits for years now. I am able to survive with one full time contract job, but my mental and physical health are at an all time low because I sit and work all day five days a week, including holidays if I don’t want to lose pay, even when I am sick. There’s no reason all of these gig jobs shouldn’t be full-time jobs with benefits (as well as the numerous low paying part time jobs that people worse off than me have to suffer working in multiple of them). Every time a US company needs an employee, they just hire a contractor so they can get away with not paying them benefits. I’m able to get health insurance from the contract company I’m hired under, but I have to spend around $500 a month, and that’s for me alone. Funny enough, the health insurance cost at my workplace isn’t any better, so even if I were hired, I wouldn’t pay less in insurance. I worked in jobs that paid me much less where the insurance was around a few tens of dollars a week or so.
It’s rarely two 9-5 M-F jobs that add up to 40 hours a week.
It’s usually a combination of a primary job that is just below the threshold of full time and therefore doesn’t qualify for basic benefits like health insurance, paid time off, or retirement <32 hours.
Usually the second job is in the evening and weekends. Service jobs, retail, etc. Often the schedule varies wildly and changes often.
Typically both jobs are paid hourly and can end at any time.
A lot of people work much more than 40 hours per week, but don’t have the security of a full time, salaried job.
Don’t forget, the reason those jobs are <32 hours is because they don’t want to pay benefits and benefit from your feelings of insecurity in terms of employment and wages. If you feel that, you’re more likely to do things employees who feel secure at work would balk at even if it’s as simple as taking extra shifts at a moment’s notice.
Which, by the way, outside of “the cruelty is the point” which is obviously the real reason I’ve never been able to get the logic of this
Surely part time, seasonal, temporary, or otherwise insecure jobs should pay more and have better benefits, no? As that’s the balancing factor for the insecurity?
Like, I’m in academia so talking about what I know, I feel like it’s incredibly obvious that a tenured professor should make less money than an assistant professor who should make less money than an adjunct. And yet it’s the opposite. Adjunct professors get paid a few thousand dollars a semester, when it should honestly be like a thousand dollars an hour to encourage the school to hire actual full time staff. Tenured professors basically can’t lose their jobs unless they really fuck up but they get paid the most and also get extra benefits like closer parking and shit like that.
Travel nurses are basically the only people that actually get higher pay to compensate for the precarity.
Most places don’t offer benefits under 36-40 hours, including 401k, IRA, other retirement options. Most part time jobs are lower pay. And also if you are driving 15-30 minutes to either job, that ends up being like 2 hours total drive time since we are a car congestion-centric culture. Working multiple jobs just to get by is predatory and aimed at the extremely poor people.
37·1 day agoI think there are benefits when you work a 40 hour job, which you don’t get when you work 2 20 hour jobs.
Edit, here is a random website I found that says the same
Edit 2: not to mention I think its likely that 20 hour jobs are paid worse than 40 hour
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I have already heard academia libs call rednote users “white leftist” who show how much a threat china really is because the app is so “han centric” and that causes cultural genocide of chinese minorities or something oh and american users are so naive because now evul ccpp orewillian chynah can steal all the data.
They are really really quaking in their boots. The ideological engineers of the empire are working overtime.
Even trying to see things from a lib perspective the data harvesting argument makes no sense to me. If you’re worried about your data ending up in the hands of someone who could use it against you, a social media app from a somewhat hostile foreign country is way safer than local social media that sells all it’s data to the state that actually has power over you.
Yeah I hear this argument from libs all the time: “it’s a natsec nightmare how an enemy government has planted sensors all over the inside of people’s homes”
But why? Why does it matter at all that China can know what American people are doing in their homes, what they’re interested in, etc? Is it for military reasons? Are you worried that Chinese robots are gonna land and have a floor plan of every tiktok user’s house? Or are you worried because knowing a lot about American people means they can market their products better? Like seriously how does it affect natsec, I can only really imagine ways in which it affects commerce and industry but not natsec. And as far as commerce goes, who cares?
I think some are worried about some silly zoomer later becoming a senator and now the government has all this dirt on them from harvesting their private messages and other info to be able to blackmail them into doing what China wants.
Which is also very far fetched and ridiculous.
Not to mention, do they think domestic entities won’t do the same lmao?
Lockheed Martin will just quietly send part of the blackmail dossier to you when you vote against defense spending
don’t be a nonce, don’t cheat on your spouse, don’t beat up service workers. No scandal, no kompromat.Yeah ngl i don’t think “People might have internet history of politicians” is really a downside here, I want that shit publicized as a requirement for accepting the job
Also the app isn’t Han centric at all - I’m getting tons of Mongol content on the default feed
Type “Uyghur” into the search, I dare you. The results are truly horrifying. People sharing fashion, food, and music from their culture. Don’t they know they’re being enslaved? That they’re living in The Truman Show?
China has constructed a massive network of “autonomous zones” - our reporting leads us to believe these zones compel people to live in their traditional ways and exert authority over their ancestral lands in order to fool westerners into thinking they have rights and aren’t being genocided.
I know, the libs are just desperate because some white people like chinese user dressing up in historical 9th century tang dynasty fashion
me, an american with a fucking literal credit score that until recently included medical debt: [lmao those chinese are so authoritarian]
I’ve been denied renting an apartment because of my credit score, lol. [dastardly chinese authoritarians]
I’ve been skipped over on jobs due to credit score.
Honestly a really funny outcome to the Tik Tok ban and generally a very positive one.
My experience with 小红书 is a mixed bag. For the most part, folks over there are insanely fucking cool, but also many of them treat their pets… quite roughly, and the commenters (with China IPs) defend it saying how you need to beat someone to teach them.
What… God dammit is this fr? How is something so easy to check Such a widespread idea?
Honestly, it’s not so easy to check, because a lot of people have no idea how many “reliable sources” will repeat US State Dept propaganda uncritically.
I think I worded that weirdly. I was asking genuinely, I had thought social credit was just a thing and was surprised something so big could be/was a lie. I too am uninformed.
It’s cool, we’ve all been in your position at one point or another
It can honestly be a bit hard to keep track of all the lies
Very recently I caught myself believing that it was the Falun Gong who were saying the CCP was harvesting organs from Uyghurs but then I realized that it definitely wouldn’t be the Falun Gong saying that as a criticism, they’d be celebrating it. Happens to the best of us.
You’re close, the Falun Gong said the Chinese government was harvesting organs from Falun Gong members.
I think people then just took that and applied it to anything China bad and so “they’re genociding the uygurs? They must be harvesting more organs!”
It really happens more often than you think. Social credit score is probably the biggest outright fabrication about China but there’s a lot of big misconceptions, like:
- Thinking China somehow is oppressing Tibetans (only partly true in the sense they oppressed Tibetan slaveowners) or the whole Uyghur Genocide lie, I think Western govs have stopped pushing the Uyghur stuff but a lot of people still think there’s a million Uyghurs locked up in detention camps even after years of travel vloggers going to Xinjiang and showing how active it is with cultural activities, traditional and modern Uyghur architecture, festivals, etc.
- Not knowing the history of the Chinese Nationalists in the Chinese Civil War, how the KMT and Chiang Kai Shek especially played a role in creating Taiwan. A lot of people seem to think that Taiwan is some kind of independent country that China randomly laid claim to, not another government that claims to control all of China because they lost the civil war.
- Misunderstanding of their whole political system, in a bunch of ways. Lots of people think China is a country where people don’t vote or have any input over how the government runs. The truth is that the CPC is way more receptive to input from the local, regional, and national bodies that govern it. It’s a system that’s closer to a direct democracy (granted, with a lot of intermediary bureaucracies) than Western liberal democracies where many national bodies are decoupled from regional and local governance.
Second point is false. Most Taiwanese were in Taiwan LONG before KMT lost their war in China. Why should nazi-aligned losers from China dictate the lives of the people who actually were there before? The KMT oppressed Taiwanese (look up white terror), and somehow they represent Taiwan per the CPC? The CPC knows they’re wrong about this but it’s still a face thing for them to do a 180 so nothing will change, probably.
To connect the dots more clearly, the claim on China is from the KMT dictatorship! No Taiwanese asked them to do that. Taiwanese were silenced at gun point. When the KMT first arrived in Taiwan, some people welcomed them because it meant the end of bandits and Japanese imperialism which treated them as second class citizens. They proved to be corrupt and inept at government and the people rebelled.
In modern days, the CPC considers it an act of war if the Taiwanese gov relinquishes the claims that the KMT made because it eliminates the face saving idea that there is a one china policy, just that both sides disagree on which side is china (it’s obviously bullshit).
years of travel vloggers going to Xinjiang and showing
showing how much better the place looks than all the cities I’m familiar with lol
Wikipedia does a pretty good job. Unfortunately, we were trained by our teachers to not trust Wikipedia so-
Your teachers were right. Wikipedia can be shady sometimes too
Here, from the Social Credit System article:
There has been a widespread misconception that China operates a nationwide and unitary social credit “score” based on individuals’ behavior, leading to punishments if the score is too low. Media reports in the West have sometimes exaggerated or inaccurately described this concept.[7][8][9] In 2019, the central government voiced dissatisfaction with pilot cities experimenting with social credit scores. It issued guidelines clarifying that citizens could not be punished for having low scores, and that punishments should only be limited to legally defined crimes and civil infractions. As a result, pilot cities either discontinued their point-based systems or restricted them to voluntary participation with no major consequences for having low scores.[7][10] According to a February 2022 report by the Mercator Institute for China Studies (MERICS), a social credit “score” is a myth as there is “no score that dictates citizen’s place in society”.[7]
Our teachers told us not to trust Wikipedia because “anyone can edit it” but that’s not the problem. Wikipedia has the same problems as any Western encyclopedia, but it’s not uniquely bad or anything. The only time I’ve ever noticed problems is with history, because history is political and Wikipedia tends to stick to the orthodox Western canon like any other Western encyclopedia.
Western sources refuse to report on the truth, and any non-western source is automatically dismissed as biased disinformation propaganda etc
Can’t counter a narrative if no accepted sources ever differ
As an educated libeal, I read things from outside my political bubble - to stay educated. This includes my home countrys leading left liberal newspaper, my countrys leading centrist newspaper and, of course, my countrys version of “Der Stürmer”
Lmao this rules
yeah talking amongst ourselves is much better than letting big media dictate what we think about other nations.
I think it’s safer to assume the whole of the internet are bots.
Does that include you or is it just everyone else that’s not a real person?
No. I am real American person, from the great oblast of Texas, California. I like cats and baking breads. Want to friendship with me? UWU 🫶
