Scientists, looking deep into space, have long voiced their concerns that satellites are encroaching on their ability to study the cosmos.

  • smokeythebear@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Okay but you’re falling into Elon’s trap. You can’t weigh future potential against current harm naively. Particularly when it comes from somebody with a long history of over promising and under delivering. Since we pay the full price up front (loss of science, etc) but will never reap the full benefits promised.

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        1 year ago

        To my knowledge absolutely nothing critical to Ukranian defense uses Starlink.

        And again, what is niave is to not heavily discount any claims Elon makes. Starlink provides neglible value currently, what potential might exist is imaginary.

        The best thing for the world is to realize Elon was a sunk cost and move on

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          1 year ago

          Elon already fucked with their starlink I believe, but I didn’t recheck to be fair. Also seriously, don’t trust that man with shit.

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            1 year ago

            For the third time, you cannot separate the grifter from the grift. That’s not “Fuck Elon”, that’s “starlink is not, and never will be, what was promised”

            Similarly, you can’t weigh an abstract possibility versus a real cost. You want the conversation to be some philosophical discourse about social vs societal value. But it’s not that, it’s a real situation right now.

            And in this real life situation, we have to evaluate what starlink actually is - - a failed toy for wealthy early adopters - - and not what some abstract “could be”.

            Especially when we know for a fact that any public promises of that potential are certainly intended to mislead and not inform.

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                1 year ago

                It’s definitely not an honest conversation when you’ve deliberately and repeatedly chosen to misunderstand what’s being said.

                It’s time to grow up and stop believing hucksters and grifters.

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      1 year ago

      For instance: it could help remote villages or third world countries. But Starlink costs a pretty penny in western money those places lack. Otherwise they would already have traditional infrastructure.

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      1 year ago

      You can’t weigh future potential against current harm naively.

      And if we’re going to play that game, then space knowledge for exploration is the biggest future potential gain that it would be tampered by starlink satellites.