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MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski met with President-elect Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago, marking their first in-person interaction in seven years.

Despite years of mutual criticism, the meeting aimed to restart communication and address divisive issues like abortion and political retribution.

Trump expressed interest in finding common ground with Democrats, while Scarborough and Brzezinski acknowledged their concerns about Trump’s actions and words.

The move reflects their belief that Trump’s re-election requires a new approach, though it drew criticism given their history of opposition to Trump, including his personal attacks on the hosts during his first term.

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    I am seeing the sentiment all over the place right now that says one should somehow adjust his or her principles because the electorate presumably disagrees with them. It is implied by some that there is somehow wisdom in the election results to which we need to cower. And, it is implied that not doing so is un-American, or perhaps in-democratic. All of that is nonsense, spewed by the very same unprincipled liars that have been enable the rise of fascism in the US for at least 40 years. Don’t let them lull you into accepting the autocracy that promises to enrich them at the expense of your freedoms, health, wellbeing, and wealth. Some things are just wrong, and they control be wrong when people support theme in mass. The republicans didn’t stop being fascists just because people voted for them.

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    Remember: MSNBC is supposed to be the “liberal” network. How is it that there is so much content from Republicans on this supposedly “liberal” network, I wonder.

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      The neo-liberals have hardly any more principles than conservatives. They’re just siding with the winner and pretending everything will be business as usual.

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    “Bending the knee” is not excusable, being a coward is not excusable, placating fascists is not excusable.

    You fight or you’re the enemy as well.

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    These were the guys that told Biden not to step out of the race. These people also claimed Trump was fascist at one point. What changed? Did they ever have spines?

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    Like it or not, he sees the writing on the wall. He knows that the best he can probably hope for under a Trump administration if he doesn’t bend the knee is the end of his career. He is not the first who have bent the knee since the election, and he won’t be the last. Every aspect of society is going to quickly become a lot more favorable to Trump, even if only to avoid his ire. Just check out how much media coverage is now significantly more Trump-friendly. Even the independent Youtube influencers on the left are already taking a much more subdued tone towards Trump.

    Jeff Bezos bent the knee out of fear of Trump retaliation. Judges have been pausing Trump and J6 related cases since he won. And before that, our entire judicial system bent to Trump’s will largely out of fear of violence if they don’t. Senators have been saying for years that they will not speak out publicly against Trump out of fear of retribution. Prominent Republicans have seen the end of their careers, driven out of the party at Trump’s hands. Much of social media have rescinded previous policies about banning disinformation. The two GA election workers that had to go into hiding after being targeted by the Trump Hate Machine. People openly marching in the streets promoting Nazi memorabilia and preaching white supremacy. Take a look up and down mainstream media over the past couple of weeks and see how much of the coverage has suddenly become infinitely more favorable towards Trump.

    There’s a reason for that. Because even the most powerful and well-connected people in the country do not have the power to stand up to him without being run over. Scarborough is just trying to stay out of jail, just like everybody else. The country is now Trump’s, and most people are just trying to find where their place is in TrumpWorld, because the world they lived in before no longer exists, and there is a growing number of people that are saying that they want it this way.

    I mean, you’re still free to stand behind your Constitutional protections and speak out openly against Trump all you want. Feel free to do just that. But when people with infinitely more resources and influence than you or I could ever dream of are having second thoughts and opting to bed the knee instead, you may want to think about why. Constitutional protections don’t mean jack shit if the people charged with enforcing those protections are the ones laughing in your face as they cuff you.

    Fighting a battle you have no chance of winning isn’t bravery. It’s suicide. And for those who are going to rush to the downvote button, remember that youtube is a thing. There is exactly nothing stopping you from going on youtube, speaking against Trump, and trying to rally the troops. Go ahead. I’ll wait.

    At the end of the day, most people are just trying to keep their heads down, make it through the day, and make it through life. Celebrities are no exception. Very few people are going to be willing to sacrifice everything they’ve worked for, and possibly even their freedom, to fight a battle that they cannot win.

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      There is exactly nothing stopping you from going on youtube, speaking against Trump, and trying to rally the troops.

      Not like anyone would see it, given the skewed platform.

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      Look, I’m not asking them to fall in their swords. I’m just asking that they don’t fly out to Maro Lago to say he’s normal actually.