• taiyang@lemmy.world
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    We’ve had several elections in recent memory where it’s been really clear that progressive Democrats win elections compared to centrists (mostly midterm elections but still). Somehow that lesson hasn’t stuck, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Harris’ defeat also doesn’t teach this lesson. At this point the old guard really just needs to die.

    People want change, GOP is offering it and people are eating it up. They just have no idea how incredibly stupid that version of change is.

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    I’m all for it. The Democrats have been a joke since they fucked Bernie. They’re terrible and don’t give a shit about their voters.

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      Oh, they were a joke long before that. In 2006, when we went from having a congress that rubber stamped everything Bush wanted to a congress that said they were displeased with Bush as they rubber stamped everything he wanted.

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      To be clear to the naysayers: It’s not that we’re angry Bernie got fucked, it is what it is. We’ve just seen the writing on the wall SINCE he got screwed over.

      Also we’re a little angry.

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      Absolutely. Just don’t use that word. The propaganda is so goddamn ingrained in the American psyche we might as well just call it something else and try to bypass that fight.

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    Fuck the Democrats.

    After that piss poor performance and immediate “we’re going to just do it again” what do they think people are going to bother getting out for?

    Run Harris and the same shit again and get fewer votes than last time dipshits I don’t care.

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    Are these the same union leaders who backed Trump, because while they’re right about the need for reconstruction, I’d like to exclude any fascists from the effort.

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        I’m always skeptical of any Trump voter who is “pro-worker”. I assume they exclusively support workers who are straight, white, cisgender, and xtian…

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    I think its time to deconstruct it tbh. Name’s tainted and “neither” has been the most popular candidate for the past 3 election cycles now. People are itching for a new party to support that doesn’t make them feel like their vote is worthless

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      Seriously why are we continuing with the same party that supported slavery and has been on doing the bare minimum to help people for the last 50 years.

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        It’s pretty stupid to base your support of a party on what it used to be, not what it is now.

        Using your logic, you support the GOP because they elected Lincoln and ended slavery, right? It’s not like there’s been 160 years of history that might have changed it since, including things like the Southern Strategy and the “Moral Majority”, right?

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        Slavery, segregation, the Dixiecrats, the Democratic Party wasn’t even the “good” one for most of the time it’s been around (and arguably wasn’t even even definitely “the” good one until like 40 years ago.

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    While I wish them luck, the DNC is structured in a manner that retains power for those with the best ability to secure donations, and these donations come overwhelmingly from wealthy Capitalists. Moving the DNC to a more progressive platform has been the project of Bernie and the Squad for decades, and it seems to have little impact on the broader party line. The DNC isn’t really organized in a democratic manner, it operates more like a business.

    Workers should instead focus on rapidly expanding their own organizations, which does make a meaningful impact on policy adopted. If you have something to bring to the bargaining table, the DNC is more likely to play ball, but you have to make them do it.