As someone who used to live in new York, can confirm. New Yorkers come off as rude but usually they just have places to be, when they’re not trying to get somewhere they’re quite nice.
This is oddly quite accurate
No it used to be before newsmax brainwashed the midwest
That spot in Kansas must be an exciting mix.
The people in the Southwest are just very forthright. They don’t say one thing and mean another.
I would say this is more true of the midatlantic/northeast. Very direct, say what they mean, it can come off as rude, or mean, but the subject outside of delivery, is not so.
After living in the southwest (born in LV, lived in PUMA, lived in Phoenix, lived in Prescot AZ, dad was stationed at edwards for a while too). I agree with this chart in a very superficial, this is a joke on the internet, way, honestly. Never met so many people who were just abrasive all around, than the SW. Hey, it’s been a lot of years though. There might have been a big cultural shift. Even if it hasn’t, I would take it over the “southern hospitality” mask of the SE, any day.
Maybe curmudgeonly is a better way of putting it. They say what they mean and they don’t feel like anyone is owed niceness or personal interaction. That doesn’t mean they hate you, they just don’t care about you and aren’t afraid to let you know.
The colder the weather gets, the more we tend to be nice. Its just natural when you’re living in a state/province where breaking down on the side of the road in winter can mean death.
And I’m only half kidding. I do honestly believe that a shared experience of harsh winters creates empathy. Same reason Nordic countries are nice to each other mostly as well.
That explains why the Vikings are known to be so kind.
It’s different, they have Vitamin D
I think there is some truth to this.
When I lived in an apartment, many times I would shovel my neighbor’s parking spot if it looked like they were working late during a snow storm. There’s nothing worse than coming home after a long day to three feet of snow you have to shovel immediately.
Or helping someone whose car is stuck in snow and can’t drive away. We’ve all helped at least one person by giving them a push.
That actually tracks
Look at the “mean” spots: summers get over 110-120 in a lot of those places
Seem and are mean is the SW, where we keep death valley
You KNOW people are bigger assholes when it’s hot. We ALL do
You KNOW people are bigger assholes when it’s hot. We ALL do
I don’t agree with this at all. That’s not my experience as an Aussie.
The stars rotate the opposite direction there, so it works the other way. Antarctica is a barren waste for a reason.
As a Canadian, you can extend the top two up to us and it would still mostly fit.
I’m on the “acts mean, is nice” side in Ontario, and you all can get fucked 🖕
Let me help you with carrying your groceries, fuck face.
Ain’t no fucking way Indiana is in the “Nice” category
Bruh, I moved out here two years ago, and holy shit! These are the most miserable, hateful, rude, nasty, violent, stupid, lazy, and just all-around shitty people I have encountered in my life. Really, damn near everywhere I go in this state, I observe this behavior. I’m originally from Michigan, but I’ve been all over the US and really have not been anywhere like this.
Jeffersonville, Indiana can have Jefferson County, KY. They’re the same people you describe.
I saw more Confederate battle flags around Indianapolis than I did in Atlanta. Fuck Indianapolis.
I’m amazed by how consistently bad the reviews for Indiana are. Even the food is somehow worse than the rest of the Midwest, apparently.
I’ll say this, when I move, I’ll miss getting a little cheese cup for my breadsticks. I’ll miss you Pizza King, but I won’t miss my shitty neighbors and oppressive infrastructure.
Oh, yes, it is.
We went there during Thanksgiving, and my wife looked around for a place that was open on Thanksgiving and had a good special dinner offering. The city subreddit said this one diner was amazing, and it happened to be a few blocks from our hotel.
It was bland and came out lukewarm. It was, at best, OK. We went back there for breakfast, because sometimes those kind of diners are only good for breakfast, but that was also, at best, OK. I have no idea why the city subreddit was raving about it.
It’s called the middle finger of the south for a reason
Or Utah
The bible belt / coal belt is not nice.
C’mon, the coal belt is the definition of acts mean, is nice.
Bible belt is peak ‘southern hospitality’ though, sweet words covering a spit in the face.
The coal belt is filled with abandoned elderly, selfish assholes in lifted trucks, religious extremists, and white supremacists.
“Well how you doin’, Honey!?”
in her mind
Who the fuck is this goddamn oreo ass tramp walking into my fucking store with her fuckin low cut, 5 year old torn up-ass Vans on and her fuckin tattery-ass-lookin-ass bitch-ass fleece hoodie?
“That’ll be $6.34, Sug!”
“You have a nice day, now!”
The coal belt is filled with abandoned elderly, selfish assholes, religious extremists, and white supremacists.
Well, yes, there is that too. I’d say you’re more likely to find run-of-the-mill insensitive (and uninterested in improving) racists than out-and-out white supremacists though.
I get that this is basically a politcal compass meme overlayed on a map (and also that this is in cartography anarchy), but here’s how I’d actually divide things up based on basically 0 practical experience:
Acts nice, is nice: West Coast (WA, OR, CA, HI) (WA might have to move down to the next category if they’re feeling surly)
Acts mean, is nice: Northeast (ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY, PA, NJ, MD, DE)
Acts nice, is mean: Southeast (AR, LA, KY, TN, MS, AL, WV, VA, NC, SC, GA, FL), Midwest (ND, SD, NE, KS, MN, IA, MO, WI, IL, MI, IN, OH), and Alaska
Acts mean, is mean: The rest (ID, MT, WY, NV, UT, CO, AZ, NM, OK, TX)
“Acts nice, is mean” still makes up a large part of the country, but “Acts mean, is mean” has been trending up for about a decade now.
I’ve colored it in as you described, at least I’m in one of the nice states
What is Washington in this graphic? Orange isn’t depicted in the original, and this doesn’t have a key.
I forgot to color in the hawaii square, one sec (now fixed, apologies hawaii)
What’s this Hawaii place? Is it like that myth of New Zealand?
Gonna save this for when I decide to visit.
I think CA is act nice is mean. I lived there for 5 years and realized everyone was p. Passive aggressive.
Depends on where you are in the State. California is almost as tall as Europe, and the people are almost as varied.
Alaska belongs more in the “acts mean, is nice” category. But it’s less “mean” and more “apathetic and disinterested.”
I get the perception Cali can be prickly too, although I’ve never been there. Maybe orange for them too? And come to think of it, inland Oregon is very Idaho.
There’s assholes born everywhere, I guess.
And of course that only aims to divide things up into big blocks similar to the original image. If I wanted to get more granular I’d probably put UT in “Acts nice, is mean” for example.
Near as I can tell since moving back, being “Iowa nice” means “be white and republican and talk down to everyone else” so no, more like acts nice, is mean for us.
Im a european, been to san francisco once, nicest fucking people ive ever met.
As a young Tulsan on my first tech support job, it took me ages to figure out that Yanks aren’t as mean as rattlesnakes, they just talk that way.
As a northerner who lived in Tulsa for four years, I’d say Oklahoma was “Acts nice, are crazy”
Alaska: Fuck off and leave us alone.
Hawaii: Get the fuck here and hang with us.
(Plz, we need money to ship things across half the pacific)
“The entire Midwest disliked that”
That’s different.
My experience having lived across the US has been closer to https://youtu.be/u3qJlWQNNxA - I haven’t met a kind (“actually nice”) person in Northern California who grew up there.
Edit to add: err, except my wife of course.