Ugh these people suck so bad. On average, western leftists are worse than useless. Some bullet points are kinda interesting, even if annoying.

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    Well, we are going to have to disagree a bit. I don’t accept any oppressor as a step forward.

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        7 days ago

        Strange that a self-proclaimed anarchist would be so in love with the idea of an oppressor.

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          I want to oppress you so bad actually, when the Dictatorship of The Queer is a reality I will personally find you so I can transify you bridget-pride-stay-mad hell yeah call me authoritarian, red fash and all the rest of the meaningless buzzwords, you’re still going to put on the cat ears and the thigh highs

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              You literally decry communist movements that were successful in their struggles for liberation from your colonialism (this includes the USSR, by the way) as simply switching the oppressor.

              You are either extremely ignorant, or are just outright malicious.

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                Moving forward, we don’t need oppressors. It’s possible to do it as a community. We can all get along.

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                  HAHAHA.
                  What is this nonsense? Do you suggest the people under your colonial bondage just get along with their oppressors? Or that workers hold hands with the capitalists?

                  What do you suggest people of Vietnam should have done? Korea? Cuba? Laos? China?

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                    Clearly the governments who control people need to be removed. I thought that was obvious, but… I guess not. I don’t think they need to be replaced with another oppressive government. I think it should be given to the people. You keep telling me what I think… and you keep getting it wrong.

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      Right.

      For you, there is no difference between (people being forced to work 14 hours a day, 6 days a week, having no guaranteed access to housing, education and healthcare, women not being protected from marital SA, having a life expectancy of 30 or so years), and literally the opposite with life expectancy rising by 60% within 30 years.

      You also see no difference between literal old-style colonialism and the lack thereof. Literal pro-colonial white European child is what you are.

      Please, tell us more about compassion and how bad we want to ‘oppress’ people by giving women fundamental rights, providing people in general with essential needs, including housing and healthcare, eliminating illiteracy, etc.

      EDIT: if you want colonialism so much, why don’t you volunteer to be treated as people were treated under the Red Rubber laws?

      Also, it’s funny how you don’t want any authority over you, but want to subjugate non-white people as your slave and near-slaves

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        What? I have no idea where you got that. You just read whatever you want?

        This is my problem, you just make shit up. I want everything in your last paragraph. We don’t need to have an oppressive government to make that happen.

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          What? I have no idea where you got that. You just read whatever you want?

          I don’t accept any oppressor as a step forward.

          Either you do not actually speak about any movement that we support, or you don’t see any difference between before and after they succeeded. Which is it?

          This is my problem, you just make shit up

          I literally listed some of the things that the USSR managed to achieve within the first 30 years of its existence. Pretty sure almost all of that also applies to the PRC (just with the different starting line expectancy).

          I want everything in your last paragraph

          Cool. Then you want the USST, the PRC, Cuba, liberated Korea, etc.

          We don’t need to have an oppressive government to make that happen.

          You claim that every movement that achieved those things was ‘oppressive’. As such, this claim of yours is unsupported.

          EDIT: Also, what is your plan for defending against a NATO invasion?

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      If you are against the dictatorship of the proletariat as a necessary step, then you are not a communist. I don’t know if that’s what you are saying though, since you are still saying practically nothing at all.