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Both parties are anti-union, against free college and anti-migrants but sure keep voting for blue fascists will make the country better

  • sisatici [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    532·
    21 days ago

    “keep voting until 50% of the country stops voting for the fascists” yea that is already done. 99% of Amerikkkans are now voting for fascists. What is the next phase?

    • Des [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      26·
      21 days ago

      yeah the fantasy “progressives” have about what the democrats actually believe in really amuses me sometimes. they love to convince themselves it’s a party full of Bernies with just a few naughty neoliberals there to derail their great, “progressive” vision

  • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    37·
    21 days ago

    -> Vote to stop fascism, we can push Hillary left, trust me! Vote blue no matter who!

    … 4 years later

    -> Vote to stop fascism, we can push Biden left, trust me! Vote blue no matter who!

    … 4 years later

    -> Vote to stop fascism, we can push Kamala left, trust me! Vote blue no matter who!

    :clueless:

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    321·
    21 days ago

    What are we doing here bruh

    Literally everything this clown said is opposed by the blue fascists. What are you actually achieving, you cretin? Just change your channel name and tell your grooming targets that it’s joever, you’re NazismDoneLeft now.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
    29·
    21 days ago

    my pet peeve is when libs talk about “half the country” deciding the outcome of an election when in fact its less than half of the people who actually voted, which is itself around half of elgiible adults, which is itself about 2/3rds of the country. So multiply all those together and the president usually has an explicit mandate from around 1/6th of the country.

    never mind that it’s moot because the options on the table are preselected for us by capital, and this year we’re getting fascism no matter what.

    • newacctidk [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      18·
      21 days ago

      Republicans are minoritarian even among voters. Reminds me of when chapo reviewed the Pfeifer book and he said “I dont believe in casting aside a third of the country as a way to win”, and Matt fucking screamed

      https://youtu.be/RgMci9k6UbA?t=2329

      morally democrats cannot afford to cede these voters to the republicans they have to i am resistant to any strategy that says we give up on a third of the country

      Wait a THIR…a THIRD??? There’s two fucking parties. IF YOU ONLY HAVE TO GIVE UP ON A THIRD YOU’RE FUCKING GOLDEN.

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      7·
      20 days ago

      I’d have to go look it up, but it was something like 35%ish of all American adults voted for Trump in 2016. I remember the number was being compared to Hitler winning only 30% of the vote when the nazis took power.

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    24·
    21 days ago

    Liberals have this fantasy of the Republicans simply fading to obscurity one day and that’s when we can worry about adopting leftist policies but it doesn’t make any sense and completely ignores why Trump became a thing in the first place. If you associate yourself with the status quo without doing things necessary for the status quo to actually work for people, you’re going to lose people to whatever the alternative is.

  • Lurker123 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    13·
    21 days ago

    With respect to the union point, Abruzzo at the NLRB has been pretty based. She rescinded the Trump era directives (which were super employer sided, see for example his NLRB GC’s ridiculous workplace salting and union representative directives) and replaced them with union sided directives. This has resulted in several challenges and overrulings of long-standing pro-employer precedent (see e.g. cemex, overruling a 1969 precedent). And the Biden board members have been significantly more union sided than trumps (cemex was a party-line split vote among the board, and there were several anti-Amazon and Starbucks rulings that made the news early in Biden’s presidency if you recall).

    This union-friendly NLRB is probably, in part, why the number of union applications has doubled compared to Trump’s term. For context, forget about how massive of an increase doubling is - this is the first time the amount of union applications has increased between presidential terms at all in the last 50 years.

    This is not to say “vote blue no matter who” or even “vote.” in the first place. You do you. But I think it’s important that your decision to do whatever you will is made on the facts. And there is a pretty material gulf between Biden and Trump’s NLRB board and NLRB GC.