Tbh this whole post is a goldmine of cis lemmitors discussing how overly sensitive they think trans people are around pronouns.
As an adult I’m nonbinary. Growing up I was deliberately stripped of my “cis” gender expression against my consent as other people’s deliberate form of dehumanization. Unless it was for formal pictures or swimsuits, I was only allowed to dress as a boy because I wasn’t a “real” person to my family. Part of that meant extreme ways they’d gatekeep being a “real” girl from me, including additions to already daily beatings from the entire family. My sister and mother got to dress as feminely as they wanted. They’d do theatric performances of how “disgusted” they were if I ever dared to express myself feminely. This would prevent me from trying on their hand me downs. They barely let me speak without punishment, so I was also silent unless there was a houseguest they falsely wanted to look normal around. This means I wasn’t even allowed to sound feminine.
Gender expression, including pronouns, is a part of someone’s personhood. Leave me that fucking privilege, don’t gatekeep it from me.
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I am literally the cissiest person in the planet, but I will try to make spaces safe for trans people, for no other reason than anti-trans people are the worst humans imaginable.
I mean, same, but also because I love our trans comrades
(Everyone go read The Gender Accelerationist’s Manifesto over on /c/womenby)
I did it! I read it. It’s good and not too time consuming like ~8 min
simp
/jk i love you
We love our simps
The whole point of the fediverse is to misgender people
I read more from that same poster.
Whoa there those are big words for an UFO sighting are you a conspiracy theorist or something? Lmao
So you basically threw away everything that I said and fixated on the only word you don’t understand to attack with the only implanted knowledge you have that sits next to it in your brain folder lol
Your argument is for the people of the rainbow, my argument is for everyone all the same as I said before if you don’t mind sharing all about yourself to everyone else then why would you mind the greedy corporations helping you out when selling your data it’s all the same they be sharing the same data as you want to force share with everyone but just not sharing any profit with you because you too want your data to be shared anyway, on the other hand there are people who simply don’t care wether you’re a he, she or even it as long as you have your personal thoughts and interests that’s all that matters and everyone is all the same online for us gender isn’t all that makes up a person and therefore it isn’t a big deal to innocently perfectly quote an old meme to someone from the different gender and get insulted and banned then because you didn’t change the quote to fit their gender.
this is Lemmy after all not Reddit, why come here if you don’t want privacy I started to have this thought that you’re just on all social platforms to spread knowledge about your identity, pronouns and the gay people existence and only that, no matter where you are it’s all the same for you "I only want everyone know that I’m not a he/him I’m a she/her I absolutely want nothing more from this place other than that " to be honest I wouldn’t judge any instance owner to start helping you further spread knowledge about the rainbow people and make personal profit out of it by selling all of your data since you not just don’t mind but also want everyone to acknowledge it, again this is not Reddit this is Lemmy, the first people who built this concept didn’t think of making it just a social platform like all they made it a safe place away from personal greed where everyone is free to keep their privacy to their own with all the rights to be anonymous, you guys just came here and started forcing rules around forgetting the first concept build of this place, some instances ‘added’ the ability to have pronouns as a ‘feature’ not all instances have it or are able to see it so just don’t forget this fact. And I have no problem acknowledging your existence I just have a problem with you forcing your “obvious pronouns so don’t misgender me” rules forgetting the main reason that had this place to exist in the first place.
What a gigantic Reddit-brained piece of shit.
The entire Internet is just cis white males. Sorry I didn’t make the rules.
When you’re anonymous, all of those ‘extra’ identities are stripped from you and you become the default white cis male American
Olympian-level mental gymnastics to defend misgendering someone
Also, “tbh honest” ATM Machine
Also, “tbh honest” ATM Machine
SMH My Head 😔
31·2 days agoThat someone was me!
You got a half dozen listed acceptable pronouns and they still misgendered you? That’s impressive.
OPs app didn’t display my pronouns, it honored the newlines I put in there
I’ll never understand why people decide to use an app to duplicate the function of a website.
Me neither, but it means I get to try and fuck with them. I was hoping they would show the full display name with linebreaks rather than just the first line though.
Think about it, having the below displayed as username/display name
apparently the APP truncates it
I know, saw that and was like, wtf. You have some of the most pronouns listed I have seen, and they somehow defaulted to he/him? That’s ridiculous.
To be entirely fair, I have been fucking about with my display name (adding newlines in it), and the user who got banned seems to have been using an app that was affected by this
Ah, gotcha. Still, the ones defending the misgendering are fucked.
Still, that’s good information to have, glad OP didn’t seem to do it out of malice and owned up to it.
I mean, i get that people make mistakes, may not see pronoun tags etc., where it gets interesting is how people react when you mention to them they misgendered somebody and ask them to correct it. Like, you’ll literally post “hey, this person’s pronouns are (… / …), your post misgenders that person, can you please edit this?” and they’ll immediately go into berserk mode. It would take literal seconds to fix, but instead people like that will go and write post after post about how you’re violating their freeze peach, and then on how rude it is to call them out on their transphobia, ad nauseam until they get the banhammer. And then they go to some instance where they aren’t banned yet and whine about how fragile and mean hexbear users are.
Exactly, libs take one scratch and join the fash. It separates the well-intentioned from the people who were always internally transphobic.
And none of them seem to get that they got banned for doubling and trippling down on the misgendering instead of “for just accidentally making a tiny mistake”.
That motherfucker wrote a whole ass book and segmented it with a “therefore” like it’s some kind of master thesis on gender instead of just correcting theirself, didn’t they?
Misgendering the idea vs misgendering the trans. Perchance
Tons and tons of flaming hoops.
Acknowledging pronouns is too hard, therefore a culture war must be waged to try to abolish them which is easier.
“Calling attention to my unaddressed racism makes you the real racist”-ass gender politics.
Some people care way more about feeling like they’re in the right than doing what’s right.
“Calling attention to my unaddressed racism makes you the real racist”-ass gender politics.
Unironically how my Lemmy.ml account got banned from Playstation@Lemmy.zip, the mod made a post complaining about DEI in God of War so I called them out on it and they banned me for “racism.” They ended up abandoning the community and said that I “proved them right.”
Some people care way more about feeling like they’re in the right than doing what’s right.
100%, it’s incredibly easy to not be transphobic.
“To be honest” is such tiresome transmute-opinion-or-lie-into-apparent-fact sophistry that saying “to be honest honest” is like a shit taking a shit to me.
The lengths people will go to in order to defend being a dickhead to marginalized groups rather than just simply not being a dickhead is astonishing sometimes
It’s absurd! A simple apology does a lot more than a chud-esque explanation and revision of events. If you have already offended people, explaining why you offended them is not going to fix it. Just apologize and sit the fuck down!
Pride is a hell of a drug
It’s like a reverse marshmallow test, you can accept your mistake and apologize immediately, which feels bad for a second, or you can dig in your heels in an attempt to avoid that second and feel bad indefinitely instead.
What if race blindness but for queers and also incomprehensible
i can barely even read this, it’s so badly written
I’ve lost patience to read block text with no punctuation.
If you wanna completely fry your brain, they responded to Awoo telling them to shut the fuck up.
Says everyone should default to gender neutral language online and uses that as a reason why it’s okay to not use gender neutral language online.
That’s… certainly a take
Would be hillarious if our mods just preemptively ban everybody who agrees with that dork.
I’ll forward names to admins
good shitThank you for your service
unlimited 1984 on the cis-genders
This whole shit reads like simulation theory but for liberals scratched by trans comrades. They are a breath and a half from ‘we’re all NPCs here so your gender shouldn’t and doesn’t matter to me’.
Not far off from “dae humans just meat computers” vulgar reductionism, either.
I guarantee you it’s comorbid
Many such cases.
There’s a special level of alienation required to declare all lived experience and all one has ever known must be fictional and that the only living thinking beings that person has ever known are just “meat.”
I hereby offer anime avatars an apology. AI avatars produce a whole new level of cringe I didn’t know was even possible.
