• piccolo@sh.itjust.works
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    19 hours ago

    Because its not just the connector, its the electronics. Usb c requires a chip to negotiate who is the host and whos the device. Usb-C thats completely ambiguous. But micro-B is always assumed is the device. But with power delivery becoming mainstream after micro B was drafted, the electronics can be all rolled into a singlw chip and finnally, reversible usb was cheap. To put in every device imaginable.

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      19 hours ago

      Hmm so the current C can be host or device, but really I’m not focused on that aspect. I’m focused on the reversible flip it over kind of thing - like USB A you flip over because you never get it right. You could have made a USB C style that always assumed is device.

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        I mean they could. But it would only solve one side. I dont think the original drafters envision using usb as a charging platform but a data transfer between thousands of different devices and host devices. I dont think they intended for most portable devices to have one side basically permanently fixed.

        For exampe for each mini and micro type B connected theres a mini and micro type A connector. But ive never seen one in the wild, but its suggestion the intention for the usb drafters.

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          16 hours ago

          I don’t think we’re talking about the same thing and I don’t know where the confusion is.

          Like when MicroUSB came out, I think charging was pretty standard. The cable can be a normal USB A to USB something that is reversible like USB C style, instead of the the USB micro.

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            14 hours ago

            Like when MicroUSB came out, I think charging was pretty standard.

            not really, in 2007, USB wasn’t even the main way to charge phones. most manufactures were using their proprietary connectors. I recall Nokia was using their barrel plug well until they sold to MS.

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              I don’t mean micro was the standard way to charge, I mean that charging things was common. People wanted to charge things in 2007. And micro could be used to charge. Charging was a feature of micro.

              We’re really not talking the same language, I don’t know where the confusion is, so I think I’m gonna bow out.