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    I don’t think I’ve ever seen another genocide where the guy doing it describes himself as a friend to the people being genocided or where a genocide would be “less bad” under him as opposed to another genocide. Democrats really are trailblazing new levels of brainrot its astonishing

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    Also anyone notice this little conspiracy theory jab at the end there?

    Going for the Muslim ban immediately is smart because it was a good comparison point. But then her answer gets worse from there, talking about defending aid for Palestinian refugees (they wouldn’t need aid and there wouldn’t be refugees if you didn’t keep providing weapons to Israel, and that doesn’t make up for causing a genocide), and then finally ending by hinting it’s not grassroots, but probably foreign actors or something.

    “I don’t think it’s all spontaneous. Some of it is grass roots. But some of it is… Something else.”

    Ooh, Russia mayhaps, Nancy? Just say it lol.

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      the Muslim ban wasn’t even stopped by dems they did fuck all about it other than finger-wag like always. It was the courts that stopped it; the same courts the federal supreme court of which Obama gave a seat for free to his “good friends across the aisle” and didnt pressure RBG to retire and which Biden refuses to expand or pack and even denounces the idea. And which for lower courts Biden kept on a lot of Trump’s awful appointments ,like that Chevron lawyer who helped defend Chevron’s destruction of Amazon and poisoning natives and helped prosecute Donziger

      “outside agitators” to discredit protests and justify repression is old as dirt too; and often racist — they did that against MLK even. Wehrmacht Walz used it to justify sending in the army to crush the George Floyd uprising in Minneanapolis

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    Well, the unsatisfying answer is shared class interests, but i’m putting forward the proposal that they are a manifestation of America’s sins given corporeal form.

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    I’ve really gotta hand it to democrats here, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more effective strategy to radicalize progressives

    Breeding a new generation of activists that will oppose them for the next 50 years is the best spin I can put on this.

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      they’ve been doing this since Obama’s 2nd term. Honestly even since the bailout but especially through the 2nd term. And the 2016 primaries radicalized a lot of people too. Now all of Bidenmala’s rightwing policies and genocidal lunacy and ignoring/talking down to and berating protestors and dissenters etc. and furthering this “outside agitator” trope that’s always used by white supremacist government and their pigs to justify crushing protests. They did it for MLK even and Wehrmacht Walz used it when sending in the army to crush the George Floyd uprising in Minneanapolis

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    liberalism “Don’t tell me you’ve all forgotten about the pier!”

    But for real, are they trying to pull the “Hamas is evilly controlling the Palestinians! So, really, helping Israel destroy ‘Hamas’ is pro-Palestinian if you think about it”? blob-no-thoughts

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    It’s the banality of evil. They are so casual about murder because they never actually see what suffering it creates. It’s like they are wearing mental blinders

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      Their casualness on the issue conveys a lack of urgency to people who are only casually engaged with world news and the presidential campaign. This makes those (rightfully) engaging on the same issue with a sense of urgency seem, to those casuals, shrill and alarmist by comparison. Wouldn’t you want to believe the person calmly reassuring you that issue is being dealt with?

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      Not to draw a false equivalence, but once you notice it here, you notice it everywhere

      Engineering students graduating and going to work for Lockheed matin and other defense contractors which report to America and it’s client state Isntreal are truly no better, and I will die on this hill.

      The “it’s systemic” discussion ends when you are an integral part of the system.

      Yay capitalism!

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    Where was this? I find it interesting they are even asking politicians questions about Middle-Eastern Americans right now in the mainstream media. I thought they were just trying to ignore their existence as much as possible while plugging their ears.

    This is exactly what people were talking about by threatening their vote, they are now being heard, and are getting harder to ignore.