WASHINGTON (KTVZ) -- Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley announced Thursday the introduction of new legislation to protect consumers’ privacy from companies who collect and sell Americans’ car data. Currently, he said, there is a troubling trend of collecting, storing, and selling data from Americans’ vehicles – largely without drivers’ knowledge. Recent reporting has even documented automakers selling the
Yea, this is more shit like noticing you slowed down on an open road and adjusting up your insurance rate by 12 cents annually. It has a carve out for NHTSA which could still use the data to hand out speeding tickets automatically if they so chose.
It also prevents you from being blasted with an ad telling you to take the next left for half off cheeseburgers after leaving your office at 11:45. I don’t drive so it doesn’t effect me but targeted advertising can get fucked in all its forms.
Even monitoring for traffic violation or bad driving is questionable. How are they going to differentiate between bad driving because you weren’t paying attention, and “bad” driving because someone cut you off and you had to take evasive action.
Like, maybe just leave me alone and stop trying to collect every bit of data possible on how I live my life. I don’t trust them to correctly interpret anything they collect.
This is the big reason data collection is bad. People already lose their insurance over having to make an emergency maneuver. See: The LexisNexus debacle
If drivers are afraid to perform emergency maneuvers because they don’t want to increase their insurance rates, that makes it more dangerous overall, and will increase the chance of a MVA.
Those cameras end up costing the city more than the accidents they don’t prevent. What happens is, there are less red light crossing collisions, and more rear-end collisions. Eventually, you have less red light runners to ticket, but that turns the red light camera into an expensive cost - at least $4000/mo for each camera. You have to make more than that at each stop light to justify the camera.
The real solution is to make sure the yellow light is set with proper timing for that road. A yellow too short for the intersection increases red light running and potential for rear end collisions. But if you did that, then you won’t make anything on red light tickets, because no one would run the red light.
So the real problem is trying to budget the city based on criminal activity - you are effectively requiring a certain minimum level of crime to balance the books.
Hell. Maybe only after self-driving cars become standard, you can monitor anyone driving for ‘fun’. Otherwise, in America driving isn’t really a privilege like they like to tell you, it’s something we’re all forced to do to merely survive (try getting a job without a car in suburban hell with no public transportation infrastructure).
I think about this all the time. I’ve watched a few high speed chase videos and it is absurd that someone can make just about any car go double highway speeds. These people often even drive in oncoming traffic, bike lanes, and sidewalks. It does seem a little ridiculous to give everyone that kind of potential destructive power.
I’d actually not mind them getting monitored for breaches of the highway code, or investigation of homicides/crashes, stuff like that.
When you take dangerous things into public, there should be some accountability.
Not that I think that’s what the telemetry is intended for.
Yea, this is more shit like noticing you slowed down on an open road and adjusting up your insurance rate by 12 cents annually. It has a carve out for NHTSA which could still use the data to hand out speeding tickets automatically if they so chose.
It also prevents you from being blasted with an ad telling you to take the next left for half off cheeseburgers after leaving your office at 11:45. I don’t drive so it doesn’t effect me but targeted advertising can get fucked in all its forms.
Even monitoring for traffic violation or bad driving is questionable. How are they going to differentiate between bad driving because you weren’t paying attention, and “bad” driving because someone cut you off and you had to take evasive action.
Like, maybe just leave me alone and stop trying to collect every bit of data possible on how I live my life. I don’t trust them to correctly interpret anything they collect.
This is the big reason data collection is bad. People already lose their insurance over having to make an emergency maneuver. See: The LexisNexus debacle
If drivers are afraid to perform emergency maneuvers because they don’t want to increase their insurance rates, that makes it more dangerous overall, and will increase the chance of a MVA.
You could just go to the nearest police department and ask them to put a bracelet on you 😀😉. Better than a telemetry butt plug.
That’s the name of my punk band: Telemetry Buttplug
I personally think speed cameras and red light cameras would be better ways of achieving driver accountability.
Those cameras end up costing the city more than the accidents they don’t prevent. What happens is, there are less red light crossing collisions, and more rear-end collisions. Eventually, you have less red light runners to ticket, but that turns the red light camera into an expensive cost - at least $4000/mo for each camera. You have to make more than that at each stop light to justify the camera.
The real solution is to make sure the yellow light is set with proper timing for that road. A yellow too short for the intersection increases red light running and potential for rear end collisions. But if you did that, then you won’t make anything on red light tickets, because no one would run the red light.
So the real problem is trying to budget the city based on criminal activity - you are effectively requiring a certain minimum level of crime to balance the books.
Hell. Maybe only after self-driving cars become standard, you can monitor anyone driving for ‘fun’. Otherwise, in America driving isn’t really a privilege like they like to tell you, it’s something we’re all forced to do to merely survive (try getting a job without a car in suburban hell with no public transportation infrastructure).
The solution is limiting the speed they can have. If e-bikes can be factory limited by law, cars too.
I think about this all the time. I’ve watched a few high speed chase videos and it is absurd that someone can make just about any car go double highway speeds. These people often even drive in oncoming traffic, bike lanes, and sidewalks. It does seem a little ridiculous to give everyone that kind of potential destructive power.