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          Specifically he told then Prime Minister Begin that it looked like a holocaust, which offended Begin as he had spent time in a concentration camp as a child during WWII. However the Israeli campaigns stopped something like an hour after the call, so clearly it worked.

          Also supposedly Biden was extremely unhappy about the President telling Israel to stop, so Biden has literally never been good on that issue, ever.

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    Please, any unironic Kamala supporters, could you tell me how this is a win and not a condemnation of her ‘platform?’

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        Project 2025 was created by the Heritage Foundation. The Heritage Foundation was a policy adviser for the Ronald Reagan presidency. In 1981, the Heritage Foundation published a listed of over 2000 policy recommendations for the Reagan Administration. By the Heritage Foundation own admission, Ronald Reagan was able to implement over 60% of the Heritage Foundation policy recommendations during his presidency. Ronald Reagan and Project 2025 are cut from the same cloth.

        https: // www.heritage .org/conservatism/commentary/reagan-and-heritage-unique-partnership

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          The libs will simply respond with “then why didn’t they endorse Trump???”

          You’re not going to convince them with this argument. In their minds, the Raygunites are so disgusted by Trump that even they have to jump over to the Democratic side, which is exactly the strategy the Democrats is playing.

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        “Scotus overturning wade and enshrining presidential immunity happened while the dems were in power and had ways to stop it but didn’t. The dems have proven that they either dont care about project 2025 or are purposefully helping it along.” ~ Commiejones

        Oh also, biden should’ve packed the court in the first two years. Democrats don’t give a shit about Project 2025 and they’re going to do absolutely nothing to stop it as they have always done absolutely nothing in the face of the “evil republicans!!!”. They sat there and let Obamacare get ruined lmfao.

        Even now Biden has essentially unchecked power. If Trump and project 2025 is so SCAWWWY then why not fucking outlaw it?

        Oh wait, because Democrats want it too. Might wanna take a look at all the donors for it…

        Centrist Democrats are useless. Right now your party is busy attacking PSL and Greens and still not doing a damn thing other than begging for money as your party always does. Womp womp.

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          Remember when the SCotUS was considering the president shouldn’t be convicted of crimes while in office? Biden could have walked up to any GOP fuck and shot them in the face with zero consequences. Yet this power is only being used to not convict Trump of all the crimes democrats are in a frenzy over.

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            I really don’t believe SCOTUS would have let Biden get away with that. They wrote that decision is such a weasely way that it gave Trump practical immunity, but allows them to decide when it applies to other presidents.

            Still I agree that if Democrats actually cared about things they’d consistently force SCOTUS to overturn popular policies, if only to show the public they’re simply unelected political actors.

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            Ya see jack, ya gotta have decorum when you’re violently centralizing power and engaging in class warfare. Muh decorum!!!

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        Do you to think Ronald Reagan or his supporters actually oppose the policies within Project 2025?

        I’m not saying you should vote for Trump, but the worst people supporting Kamala Harris isn’t the win they seem to think it is.

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          Remember that dems are centrist worshipers as well and so love getting endorsements “across the ideological aisle” even if those ideologies destroyed working class American lives.

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            Lol I never forgot. Those ideologies also destroyed queer lives, lives in the middle east, and lives in the global south. The memory of the US is about 3 seasons of television long.

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    Hearing and reading libs says shit like “See, Dick Cheney knows that Trump is even worse than he was, that’s why we have to vote blue” is infuriating. How can’t they see what’s really happening here?

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      The Democratic strategy is to take over the entire Republican party. This has always been their goals. You can call this the “skinwalking strategy”.

      In a decade or so, the GOP will be nothing more than MAGA crazies obsessed with culture war shit. This is a huge win for the liberals and the Democratic party. They are the competent fascists.

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        I’ve been saying this for years, that the Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney Republicans would splinter off and join the Democrats. I just figured it would’ve taken another 4 or 5 presidential cycles. I can’t believe it’s happening in my lifetime.

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    man these libs including kdolf hitler herself at the debate, bragging about how much conservatives love kamala, how do liberals who believe themselves to be progressive or even left wing not see that and think “maybe i shouldn’t support the same candidate as these vampires”?

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      Which is so fucking odd, because those people have been democrats since 2017 and gleefully told everyone about their “conversions” every chance they’ve had.

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    You are misunderstanding their priorities.

    People from former republican administrations are not the sort of people who take principled, reasonable positions.

    These are sycophants jumping from the burning ship.

    They know any chance Trump had to recapture power vanished when Biden decided not to re-run.

    They know the republican party is in a bad place because Trump’s RNC is doing nothing to support down-ticket candidates. It’s a powerless organization made only of unpopular positions on any sort of visible issues.

    MAGA will continue to imprint itself through the judiciary until Dems pack the courts (again), but supporting Kamala is the sycophant’s only play right now.

    Because they are not reasonable or principled people, I would not expect them to have any reasonable or principled input on policy.

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      Republicans jumping ship isn’t talked about enough. Paul Ryan knew to bail before those investigations started about corruption back in 2015ish. I think even more republicans saw Trump throw his own VP under the bus and realized they, too, are expendable. And since Trump has faced zero consequences while everyone around him goes to prison, they don’t want to rely on getting a pardon when the party wants them to do something stupid.

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    My interpretation of these stories is that it’s meant for republicans.

    It certainly sucks hearing these shitheads endorse Kamela as a sane person. These psychos are trying to rehabilitate themselves. But republicans seem to be mostly influenced by “their authorities” not by argument. So to beat Trump, this is probably a good strategy.

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      can you see how admitting that reaganite endorsements = a surefire strategy is an indictment of the entire american political system, and leaves the only sane choice of dismantling the american state-machine before it does even more genocide

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        … Sure, but I’m talking about their propaganda strategy and trying to understand it.