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          Yeah but if they’re just grabbing keys that wouldn’t work, but hopefully would let them pick the profile when car starts

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            I guess if you have one set, but there are usually two that come with most cars. Probably whoever grabbed theit preferred car key first means the other grabs their key for the second car?

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        As someone who used to work on other people’s cars, I think I’ve had my knees jammed into the dash way too many times to ever want this on one of my cars. Fuck that.

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          I can relate to this so much lol. I’m very tall and I remember getting into the Mercedes of a little old lady. The seat started moving forward while the steering wheel extended towards me. Felt like I was about to be featured on the hydraulic press channel.

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            Mercedes was the exact brand I was thinking of when I wrote that comment. For me it brings to mind the trash compactor scene from Star wars

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          The absolute panic when you put the keys in the ignition and the seat starts moving forward. You try to move it back before your knee slam into the dash, but the controls arent exactly where you thought

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          You mean due to the risk of accidentally hitting a button that sets the seat to a short position while you drive?

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            Nope, I mean due to them being automatic when you start the car, and linked to the “driver comfort” profile stored in the key.

            As soon as you start the car the seat starts cramming your knees into the dash if it happens to belong to a shorter person. And of course, there’s no sign in the car that the owner is short because the seat moves all the way back when you turn the car off.

            /Rant (sorry, the real problem in my opinion is that there isn’t a resistance/safety sensor that stops the whole thing)

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      My wife and I are about the same height so we don’t have to adjust our seats.

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        Same with my wife and I. Seat doesn’t move, only adjust rear mirror. The side mirrors are set up for her since it’s minimal adjustment for me, it’s not worth it unless I’m doing a long drive like 3+ hours

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        I’m quite a bit taller than my partner, but she has a big bum and I don’t and it nets out to us having the same seat position, just different seat back angle to accommodate our different arms

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      It’s not a big deal. My SO and I are very different heights (like a foot/35cm), and it takes all of 10 seconds:

      • slide seatbelt adjustor up/down
      • move seat forward/backward
      • adjust mirrors

      We do it like 2-3x/week, and as the taller person, I’m totally capable of doing the adjustments while driving out of the neighborhood. It’s really a non-issue.

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        My wife and I are just the right height difference that the little flicky switch on the internal mirror will swap between the angles each of us need.

        One day we got a car that has some auto light filtering for night driving and it doesn’t have the switch. Can’t wait to sell it.

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        When I drive my girlfriend’s SUV, I have to stand outside of it and work the controls until I’ve got enough room to get in. It’s not awful, but does kind of suck on hot summer days when I just want to be in the air conditioning.

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          Our old (2006) minivan has an electronic adjustor, so I just hold that down while getting in (butt in seat, press button, swing legs). Our other car (2007 sedan) is even easier, since I just tap the adjustment bar under the seat and it slides back as I’m sitting on it (again, sideways). Then I adjust the shoulder seat-belt just before grabbing the belt to buckle, then I adjust the rear-view mirror while checking as I back up. It’s pretty smooth and routine.

          Our AC takes a while to turn on anyway, so I don’t expect any AC until I’m at least a mile or so down the road. We park in the shade (garage at home and work), so I don’t need the AC anyway when setting out.

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      My car does this automatically depending on the key fob used, or the smart phone that’s closest to the driver seat depending on which you are carrying. Seat, and mirrors.

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      My wife and I happen to use the same seat position and wheel position, so we just have to adjust the rear view mirror and during the time of year when it’s really hot/cold maybe adjust the vents to how we each like. Takes like 5 seconds to adjust

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        Power seats and mirrors with multiple memory is still a luxury car feature and not mainstream like power windows.

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          The OP did not say what kind of cars they have. It is possible to have 2 cars with memory seats and mirrors. Now if only we could get memory rear view mirrors on the same cars as memory seats. Oh and seatbelt height adjustment memory.

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            Camera rear views allow this, common in a lot of trucks, they use the backup camera and feed it through a screen where the mirror is.

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            Both of my cars set the outside mirrors when they set the seats (one by which phone unlocked it, the other by a driver 1/2 button)

            But I find I change the centre mirror every time I get in the car, maybe even more than that as I often adjust it while I’m driving

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          I wouldn’t call it a luxury car feature. In the US basically every car >30k has that. And most new cars cost >30k at this point. Basically every trim over base that’s like the first thing they add.

          I had a Ford Focus rental car with power seats once.

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            When I bought a $50k US car in 2017, only the top trim had memory seats, and they penny pinched it off the top trim hybrid model so I couldn’t get them at any price.

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              Some OEMs do stuff weird. Hyundai and Kia are some of the worst. Some common features are on the trim just above base, the rest are all in the top trim.

              When I bought my Outback in 2018 every trim besides base had it. But that Focus for example was a top trim and apparently only top trim has that. Granted that’s an smaller economy car, vs the Outback.

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    We’ve got 1 car. If I need to go somewhere and the wife has it, I get the bus. It’s a lot cheaper than owning 2 cars.

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          Yeah but that would raise my commute to two hours daily. And an hour of that would be biking home after midnight in a town where I’m very likely to get shot, stabbed, and mugged. Probably at the same time.

          Not to mention my bike getting stolen and the fact that I’d likely get stopped by the police here every night due to dark skin

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          I live a mile from the nearest safe road to bike on. People regularly nearly hit me in my car. I’d be dead if I biked anywhere

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            I used to bike to work, then I changed workplace. Now if I tried cycling to work, I’d end up very tired… as in under truck tires.

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          Distances are far in places designed for cars. My city was made at the height of car based design so it takes an hour and a half to cycle from where I live to where I work, and that’s typical. We do have transit though, which is especially pointed at moving people from residential areas to work places and back

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          Bike theft is such a problem where I live I’ve been very hesitant to get another one. If they can’t get the whole bike, they’ll wrench off tires/seats, etc. My town might be an outlier, but I wonder how other people deal with this kind of thing when their bike is their primary form of transport.

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            The good news, I guess, is that there’s a healthy market for bikes and bike parts. Hopefully that means more people are riding them! (Note: some percentage of this comment is a joke but even I don’t know how much)

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        My closest bus stop is 1.5 miles away and the bus runs every hour (or so they claim)

        The city added some sort of public “uber” that you can hail and ride for I think $2 but it only works within city limits and my wife has many friends in the neighboring cities so it was useless if she wanted to meet them, and also sometimes it’d take more than an hour for a pick up

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      I was gonna say “wait until this guy hears my wife and I SHARE a car… oh, the humanity!”

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      We’ve been trying to make this work with e-bikes. We still HAVE two cars, but don’t really use one of them unless we have to.

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      I’d love to live in a place with workable public transport, but where I live it would add an hour to my commute each way; effectively an extra 10 hours a week at work

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      Do you ever run into issues with the bus taking a lot longer, and you not accounting for the extra time if your wife take the car? Where I live, 15-20 minute car rides are often 35-45 minute bus rides, and the bus comes half an hour.

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        Not really. I just leave at the time needed to get to work on time for whatever mode I’m using. It’s about 8 miles, and before COVID it was usually quicker to cycle than sit in traffic. Now there’s less traffic so cycling takes a bit longer than car, but not much. Bus is about the same as cycling.

        I’m 57 and not hugely fit, but I can cycle 8 miles each way without any problem. Takes 30-35 minutes depending on wind direction.

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      Right now I work a hybrid job and landed this job not long after totaling one of our vehicles in an unavoidable wildlife encounter. We ended up not buying a second car and I’ve been biking to stuff in town when I can (I live in a small town and various stuff frequently calls for running to other nearby towns for this or that) and it’s been really nice only having one car to worry about, but with the kids starting school and my wife looking at going back to work, the time to get a second car might come sooner than later

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    Yup, that’s how we do it. We have kids and two cars: minivan and hybrid sedan. The hybrid gets more than 2x the mileage vs the minivan, it’s smaller, and both of us prefer it, so it’s what we use 90% of the time. We take the minivan if we’re all going somewhere, or we both need to be somewhere at the same time. I’ll also take the minivan for cargo (hardware store, dump, furniture store, etc).

    Before we had kids, we had one car. When we both needed to be somewhere at the same time, I’d take my bicycle or the bus, and my SO would take the car.

    Each person having “their” car makes no sense to me, I see cars as tools in the toolbox, and we take the one that’s best suited to the task at hand.

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      That’s pretty much how we do it, but with a phev and an SUV. On days we both work she takes the phev, I the SUV. When one of us is going somewhere we take the phev. But if it’s snowing or we want to haul kayaks or load up heavy to go camping, the SUV.

      The phev is "hers"and the SUV “mine”. But only vaguely 🤷‍♂️ we don’t actually care that much. But also it’s not a free for all. She would probably be a little miffed if I just randomly took the phev to work forcing her into the SUV. But if we talked about it first she’d probably be fine 🤷‍♂️

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        For snow, snow tires should be more than sufficient. That’s what we do and it works fine for us here in Utah. No AWD, just decent tires.

        We bought a second car when our first was born because our existing car (2-door coup w/ manual transmission) was a bit frustrating to load a car-seat into (we did it for a year though), and my SO couldn’t drive stick. So we picked up a hybrid (the same one we drive today about 10 years later), and the stick became “mine” by default (commuter only), and the hybrid was “hers,” at least for a couple of years until I was able to junk it because I was riding my bike to work every day. We stuck with a single car for another few years until #3 was born and I switched jobs (both in the same year, new job was more than twice as far), and the bike commute just wasn’t happening.

        And that’s where we are today. My SO still feels some ownership over the hybrid, but it has largely become my commuter now. We’ll probably swap the hybrid for an EV soon-ish and later exchange the minivan for something my SO likes to drive more once car seats aren’t an issue. And when the kids leave the house, we’ll go back down to one car (ideally none, but I don’t think my SO would go for that).

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      Boutta seize the means of reproduction. Hammer that ass, and sickle those tiddies. Stand in a bread line to put a bun in the oven. It’s OUR orgasm, comrade

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    We have two electric cars, a big one and a small one. The small one is “mine” and the big one is “his.” However, we both work from home so the only commute anymore is taking the kids to school. So, whenever possible, we take the little one because it’s more efficient by far. He doesn’t mind and thankfully it saves seat profiles, even if we always have to adjust the mirror.

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      We do the same, but opposite. We have a minivan and a smaller EV. The minivan is technically hers and the EV is mine, but it’s really more what it’s used for. If one of us is taking the kids somewhere (school, birthday parties, fun) we take the van. If we’re running to the store, normal errands or just taking a single kid we’ll use the EV.

      It doesn’t make sense for her to take the minivan to run to the store to pick up something small and it doesn’t make sense for me to take the smaller car to bring the kids somewhere.

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      The day when they make that adjust to the profiles! In mine we found kind of a sweet spot for seating position with the mirror adjusted the same for both of us. Heights are close through.

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        Wouldn’t that be great? I think some fancy cars do it, but not ours. To be fair, it’s a small price to pay for giving gas companies and PG&E less money.

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          If you’re talking about adjustable rear view mirrors then I think one of the last and only cars to do it was the 90s Mercedes Benz S class. They had it memory linked with steering and seating. It was weird and cool.

          Also, if you’re charging your car in a PG&E area you’re technically giving them more money since the gas they provide is natural gas and not petroleum gas. You’d be sticking it to BP or Cheveron (or standard oil if you want to go old school).

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            We do have solar, which doesn’t cover everything but covers some. Either way, we figure if we use the more efficient car, less goes to PG&E than if we were charging the larger car more frequently.

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        I’m seeing cars with the rear view mirror is just a screen. At that point you shouldn’t have to adjust it

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          Mine has that too. Its cool and not so cool. Camera gets dirty, but I can spray to clean it. Driving in rain you just see water kicked up from the tires so it’s all you see. Its also harder to gauge distance IMO. On the plus side, if you have the back window blocked by heads in the back seat / recently purchased a big object like a TV, it’s a great backup so you can see out the back. Also, mine at least seems too use a wide angle camera, this is pretty nice since you can see blind spots and more lanes when on 3+ lane highway.

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          That seems really rough anywhere with snow. Whole car accumulates so much crap on it that gets kicked up in the winter between freeze/thaw cycles, dirt that gets shoveled/plowed with snow, slushy muck getting kicked up from the road when it’s just close enough to freezing to form, etc.

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      Same, but with a hybrid and a minivan. We use the hybrid whenever possible (~2x the gas efficiency, cheaper repairs, etc). It’s not a big deal, and our adjusting process is completely manual (adjust seatbelt, seat, and mirrors) since we’re very different heights.

      I haven’t done the math, but I imagine it saves hundreds every year on gas alone. We put something like 15k miles on the small car, and 5-10k miles on the big car.

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    my partner likes to eat in her car.

    I like to camp in bear country.

    we share but there are definitely assigned vehicles. Also cutely I bought hers for her and she bought mine for me and we both love that.

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        no she drives a small commuter vehicle and i’m in a van. So if she needs the van she’ll take it but she has heard me warn her enough times that a bear will hike 30,000 miles to tear the door off my van for a taco bell wrapper that she doesn’t eat in it. She mostly just uses her car.

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          for a taco bell wrapper that she doesn’t eat

          Does she usually eat the wrappers?

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    For years we didn’t have our own sides of the bed, but then one day we got a bed side table and that all came to an end.

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    I love my wife, she can’t drive for shit though, nor does she respect vehicle maintenence, much less asthetic care.

    Nope.

    Also, she’s literally told me she’d be afraid to drive my car precisely because I keep it so nice and she doesn’t want to be responsible for fucking it up.

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      I fell into this trap. We have a nice, fancy, efficient EV that’s my daily driver, and a larger, less efficient gas vehicle that doubles as the family car/road trip machine that she dailies. We work roughly the same distance from our offices, but on days when she has to go across town on an errand, she takes the EV. It makes sense to save gas and whatnot.

      Rims are fucked. I think she’s rubbed them on every available curb in a 25 mile radius. She doesn’t care. Fuck me for wanting a nice car I guess.

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      Likewise mine. I bought an electric car to replace her Honda to save the poor Jazz from her gear changing technique

      We have two cars, but the electric gets used most by a long way as electrons are much less costly than diesel

      It’s not that we grab whichever car, just we’re not in America and don’t need to travel by car all the time and whoever chooses a car second gets the Subaru

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      This is one thing I love about having old but reliable cars. Our bigger family car that my wife drives is banged up in so many ways but I can just ignore it. As long as the mirrors work I don’t have to worry about how many scratches are on the housing, and as long as the tires hold air it’s easier to ignore the wheels that look like somebody was practicing their angle grinder technique.

      And then with my little commuter car, even though I like to park far away and I don’t drive into shit, I still don’t have to worry about other people or keeping it looking clean, etc.

      In general I find it liberating and good for the ol’ mental health to not obsess over superficial qualities of material possessions. So if I can make it easier to do that, it’s a win.

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      So if they were both in your name she couldn’t?

      I know that is not probably not what you are saying, but that is the implication of this argumentation

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        Not hard to put both vehicles in both names. I don’t think they are “arguing” anything, just stating a legal fact about marital property.

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    I can’t even entertain this premise. There’s no way neither of them has a preference…

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    It’s how we do it. Some factors in choosing the car:

    • Distance (gas milage)
    • Destination (smaller car for inner city driving/parking)
    • Safety of route (sometimes I drive over the mountains and one our cars is better suited)
    • Number and size of passengers (children vs adults)
    • Cargo (dump run, grocery shopping, etc)
    • If I have to take a conf call when driving
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          I have extremely high anxiety and can attest that it took a lot of time and effort to master a stick shift. It’s definitely valid that your wife doesn’t want to go through that struggle.

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            I forced myself. My first car was a 1992 Pontiac with a manual transmission. I didn’t even know how to drive it off the lot haha. I just wanted the damn thing.

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              Similar situation for me! I bought a Mazda6 and learned to drive it on the 30 min drive home. Had a buddy follow me to keep cars off my ass. It’s definitely a skill I’m glad I learned, and I’m sad to see manual transmissions die off as EVs come into popularity. And honestly my daily driver is an EV now. But I still miss the precise level of control that comes with a manual, especially in Winter.

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          There are whole countries where virtually everybody has to learn manual, even anxious people.

          They just don’t have the crutch of automatic gearboxes to fall back on.

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          Throw her on a hill and she’ll see that it’s way easier than she expects to find the catch. I’m also pretty high strung, generally speaking, and when I couldn’t get a hang of changing gears, the moment would devolve into sheer panic and make everything worse as I snubbed the engine with each attempt. And this was during parking lot practice with someone’s old car that they were planning on junking anyways, so no need for that level of stress whatsoever.

          But then I was taken to a little incline where I could clearly /feel it/ for the first time and after that, I just “got it”.

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        Depends on the person. I had an ex I spent about 4 hours in a parking lot trying to teach and she never got the take off down. I think some people are incapable of driving a standard.

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          Not that I’m condoning this, but, take the keys to the other car away, and give them a headstart and I bet they’d figure it out precisely one commute’s time away from their next shift at work.

          I think part of the difficulty is people ‘learning’ to drive stick in a parking lot. That’s good for 30 minutes, but you won’t actually get a feel for it unless you properly drive around.

          Honestly though, I think if someone is actually incapable of driving a manual transmission car, then they probably shouldn’t have a license in the first place, it shows such a lack of fine motor control that it brings in to question their ability to manage other aspects of driving.

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          I just can’t feel that point where the clutch engages/disengages so I keep stalling at take off or grinding the gears when shifting. Haven’t tried again in a decade.

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              That could be the problem. I was told to shift when I felt the clutch take the power off the engine, and then give it a little gas when I feel the gears remesh. It was also on a 30 year old Peterbilt 5/10 speed hi/lo truck with everything worn out, so probably not the best thing to learn on

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                Yeah no, you’re better off learning on a car. And just know that what you will do at the beginning is different from what experienced drivers do, as they’ll have developed a “feeling” for the car that you don’t have yet, so just do it by the book.

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                Learning on a transmission with >6 speeds is hard mode, they do take a little more thinking with the gear pattern than in a car. Synchro versions are not that hard if you’re used to a regular manual but adding another thing to learn is not ideal when starting out. If it was a non-synchro variant then good luck getting someone to pick that up without a few solid hours of learning time.

                If you were being taught by someone used to heavy trucks it makes sense why they didn’t tell you to push the pedal right in - on many (all?) non synchro transmissions pushing the clutch all the way in brakes the input shaft and if you’re moving you then have to resynchronise it with the gear speed in order to get into gear.

                Note you don’t actually have to push the clutch in all the way in a car either, all that really matters is getting it past the point where the clutch is fully disengaged. After all the clutch plate is either touching the flywheel to some degree or it’s not touching, once it stops making contact pushing it further away doesn’t make a difference. When first starting out though it’s easier to just push the pedal all the way in - save thinking about finer details until you’re comfortable with the basics.