• mathemachristian[he]@lemm.ee
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    They accuse Trump, who famously had Soleimani murdered, of being weak on Iran. From the Official Democratic Party platform

    All of this [ed: prior 3 paragraphs all about bs Biden did against Iran] stands in sharp contrast to Trump’s fecklessness and weakness in the face of Iranian aggression during his presidency. In 2018, when Iranian-backed militias repeatedly attacked the U.S. consulate in Basra, Iraq Trump’s only response was to close our diplomatic facility. In June 2019, when Iran shot down a U.S. surveillance aircraft operating in international airspace above the Straits of Hormuz, Trump responded by tweet and then abruptly called off any actual retaliation, causing confusion and concern among his own national security team. In September 2019, when Iranian-backed groups threatened global energy markets by attacking Saudi oil infrastructure, Trump failed to respond against Iran or its proxies. In January 2020, when Iran, for the first and only time in its history, directly launched ballistic missiles against U.S. troops in western Iraq, Trump mocked the resulting Traumatic Brain Injuries suffered by dozens of American servicemembers as mere “headaches” – and again, took no action

    Edit: this is from a couple days ago, in case the fact that it was clearly written with a Biden candidacy in mind throws you

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          28 days ago

          No, I’m not being blindly loyal. I’m understanding that it’s (frankly kinda idiotic) political posturing. It’s politics. It’s de rigueur.

          And moreover, you’re taking the fact that the platform is highlighting the feckless inconsistency and ineptitude of the Trump administration and the guy himself as a “we can do better” statement, while I see it as much more of a “huh, thought you said you’d be ‘strong on defense’, but that didn’t pan out” - I.e., largely pointing out hypocrisy, as well as the fact that he manifestly does not give a shit about the welfare and health of people in the military.

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            I see it as much more of a “huh, thought you said you’d be ‘strong on defense’, but that didn’t pan out”

            This is the official party platform of the democratic party. This is where they write and then vote on what their party plans to do, not some media piece to dunk on Trump. This is about what they want to do once they’re in office. It’s their action plan, it’s not meant to rally voters by comparing their candidate to Trump.

            Read the paragraphs before that, the section that starts with

            Through aggressive diplomacy backed by U.S. military power, the Administration has worked alongside our allies and partners to deter and defend against Iran and its terrorist surrogates.

            They’re proudly displaying their aid in genocide and how they are bombing the middle east and promising more. It’s also telling that they are constantly comparing Bidens presidency to Trumps. They absolute plan to stay the course they just switched out the front.

            Compare it with their 2020 platform:

            Democrats will call off the Trump Administration’s race to war with Iran and prioritize nuclear diplomacy, de-escalation, and regional dialogue. Democrats believe the United States should not impose regime change on other countries and reject that as the goal of U.S. policy toward Iran. We believe the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) remains the best means to verifiably cut off all of Iran’s pathways to a nuclear bomb. The Trump Administration’s unilateral withdrawal from the JCPOA isolated us from our allies and opened the door for Iran to resume its march toward a nuclear weapons capacity that the JCPOA had stopped. That’s why returning to mutual compliance with the agreement is so urgent. The nuclear deal was always meant to be the beginning, not the end, of our diplomacy with Iran. Democrats support a comprehensive diplomatic effort to extend constraints on Iran’s nuclear program and address Iran’s other threatening activities, including its regional aggression, ballistic missile program, and domestic repression

            This is a clear shift in rhetoric towards Neocon Warhawk.

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                And that’s why the Democrats just might be more dangerous than the Republicans.

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                    I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

                    ~Martin Luther King Jr, Letter from Birmingham Jail, 1963.

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                  Democrats, Republicans, it’s all good as long as everyone is pulling in the same direction: transferring wealth from natural, human, and government resources into corporate ownership.

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                  Dems have always been more dangerous, they hide among the marginalized as allies until they are ready to strike

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                    Evolutionary pressures are inevitably going to turn them to using the two most effective but distinct strategies for exploiting and controlling voters that can exist. As soon as techniques more effective than, “win by allowing the voters to educate themselves and vote their conscience,” were developed, mass democracy was fucked.

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            Yeah, blue maga.

            No, I’m not being blindly loyal. I’m understanding that it’s (frankly kinda idiotic) political posturing. It’s politics. It’s de rigueur.

            This is exactly what Trump fans say when you give them something he said that they disagree with or point out his playing of both sides.

            the platform is highlighting the feckless inconsistency and ineptitude of the Trump administration and the guy himself as a “we can do better” statement, while I see it as much more of a “huh, thought you said you’d be ‘strong on defense’, but that didn’t pan out” - I.e., largely pointing out hypocrisy,

            So…move right on the military and become a warhawk…to show that Trump isn’t actually hawkish enough on the military so it didn’t work for him?..love it./s

            refuse to play politics with our security. Here is my pledge to you: As President, I will bring back the bipartisan border security bill that he killed. And I will sign it into law. (Immigration as a national security issue)

            ensure America always has the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world. (More military, more deadly!)

            will never hesitate to take whatever action is necessary to defend our forces and our interests against Iran and Iran-backed terrorists. (Make them fear us!)

            I will always stand up for Israel’s right to defend itself and I will always ensure Israel has the ability to defend itself. Because the people of Israel must never again face the horror that the terrorist organization Hamas caused on October 7th. (Support Israel and justify the ongoing genocide!)

            The Democratic party is just evil at this point, people just don’t want to lose hope and the system has been designed to convince people the Dems are the only hope.

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                  Ok. I’ll pretend that you’re not just being a weird pendant about shit that could not be less important…

                  Yeah dude, that’s exactly what I meant when I said that. That was the point of my comment. It wasn’t meant to be taken as a rhetorical device to make an obvious point. It was specifically about yelling at children. Go fuck yourself