He may not be in office, but Donald Trump has been speaking with the powers that be about Israel’s war on Gaza—but it’s not in an effort to end the genocide.

Instead, Trump has allegedly been talking with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to avert a cease-fire deal, fearing that doing so could help Vice President Kamala Harris win in November, according to PBS.

“The reporting is that former President Trump is on the phone with the Prime Minister of Israel, urging him not to cut a deal right now, because it’s believed that would help the Harris campaign,” said PBS’s Judy Woodruff Monday night. “So, I don’t know where—who knows whether that will come about or not, but I have to think that the Harris campaign would like for President Biden to do what presidents do, and that’s to work on that one.”

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    Is it ok for Democrats to continue financing a genocide because Trump said he’d do it, too?

    Biden isn’t even in the race anymore. Why are you still trying to defend him?

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        The point being what? People who are trying to push Biden to stop a genocide aren’t bothering with Trump because they know he’s a lost cause?

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          That’s an interesting point indeed. Yet that is not the typical sentiment I see/hear. But what I still don’t understand is, why would anyone vote for a lost cause in order to stick it to someone (Biden) who chooses (I disagree with him) not to budge? Will that make things better? Won’t it be worse?

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            Who’s voting for Trump? I haven’t met anyone on the left who is voting for Trump because of Palestine.

            Any who are, idk, perhaps they are accelerationists who believe that by bringing contradictions to the forefront faster theyll be resolved faster.

            Example: the slow genocide is carrying on without anyone stepping in. Maybe they hope Trump’s idea for a faster genocide will draw a reaction from other countries.

            I’m not one of these people though and know none though so I can only speculate.

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      Hey, lookit that, I’m learning how to summon them!

      Who defended Biden? I pointed out how y’all seem exceedingly quiet on the matter, and what’s your response? “Buh-buh-buh-Biden buh-buh-buh-bad!” I’ll give ya one thing, you’re as predictable as a Swiss watch.

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        Yes, you typically get responses from people when you bring them up.

        Who’s silent on this? Of course it’s evil, it’s expected though and everyone recognizes that it’s evil.

        We speak about genocide Joe because we have hope that the Democratic party will listen, like Obama said last night,

        We start thinking that the only way to win is to scold and shame and outyell the other side. And after a while, regular folks just tune out, or don’t bother to vote at all.

        That approach may work for the politicians who just want attention and thrive on division. But it won’t work for us. To make progress on the things we care about, the things that really affect people’s lives, we need to remember that we’ve all got our blind spots and contradictions and prejudices; and that if we want to win over those who aren’t yet ready to support our candidate, we need to listen to their concerns—and maybe learn something in the process

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          Who did i name in this thread? I mentioned the genocide Joe crowd, and someone said “here.” So, perhaps they felt called out…? Dunno, can’t say.

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          And Trump is not even a public official and still calling the President of Israel trying to keep the conflict going.

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          its not about criticism in general its about the same group quickly jumping on and criticizing for their one issue with trump similar to how they do with biden. In particular given that this is trump trying to make it worse rather than just not taking action to make it better.

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            Because it’s expected for Trump to be a genocidal monster and nobody expects to win him or Republicana in general over.

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        Yeah let me join the downvote crowd. The most powerful military and the largest economy in the world is unable to stop its vassal state from carrying out a genocide for 10 months. But if I vote for this cop and her soldier friend instead of a real estate guy, we’ll magically change our ways and the bombs will stop falling. I have a bridge to sell you.

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          K let me try and put this as simply as I can, so that you fucking acorns can understand:

          Joe Biden is working towards a cease-fire. That is a fact.

          Donald Trump is actively discouraging Netanyahu from agreeing to a cease-fire. That is a fact. No bridges there.

          You people are condemning Joe Biden, the guy now actively working towards a cease-fire.

          You people are not condemning Donald Trump, the guy actively interfering with a cease-fire.

          To reiterate, Donald Trump is actively, publicly, and aggressively supporting genocide, and Joe Biden is trying to get a cease-fire enacted, yet you Genocide Joe sycophants can’t see past your own biases to realize that.

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            Joe Biden is working towards a cease-fire. That is a fact.

            He just sent them $20B in new arms exports.

            FFS, Americans are the most propagandized people on earth. You’ll believe absolutely anything, except the truth.

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                And Trump is interfering with a ceasefire.

                Netanyahu has not demonstrated any interest in a ceasefire. Blaming this on Trump deflects the strong Israeli support for further genocide of the Gaza people.

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                  Trump is on Netanyahu’s side regarding a cease-fire. If you have a problem with Netanyahu not entertaining a cease fire, you should have a problem with Trump trying to scuttle it.

                  That is, if your problem is actually with the genocide, and not just a weird personal vendetta against Joe Biden.

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                    That is, if your problem is actually with the genocide, and not just a weird personal vendetta against Joe Biden.

                    Again, do you realize who is currently holding office?

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              The vast bulk of that deal is a contract for 50 F-15s, which are estimated to be delivered in 2029. He did not “just send them $20B in new arms exports”.

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          instead of a real estate guy

          • Instead of a real estate guy who just called the person doing the genocide to ask him to keep genociding

          FTFY

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          If the cop and her soldier friend don’t win the race, the person who will win is a rapist insurrectionist, he will facilitate the further erosion into total fascism, he will ramp up the genocide in Gaza and Ukraine, he will further remove human rights from our neighbors. The article is literally about this guy violating the law in attempt to prolong the genocide. For personal gain. Or you could throw your ballot in the trash, I guess.

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            Jill Stein needs 5% to get the Greens increased federal funding. I live in a state where my blue vote wouldn’t matter. Seems pretty simple to me.

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            “Trump made a call to Netanyahu to tell him to do the things he was going to do anyway. This is possibly illegal (but he won’t be prosecuted for it so it isn’t illegal in an tangible sense).”

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                Netanyahu has expressed no support for a ceasefire, going so far as to greenlight the assassination of the lead Palestinian diplomat.

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                  So “Genocide Ben?” “Genocide Don?” No? Just genocide Joe? Still waiting for any kind of condemnation. Lacking that, it looks like you support this.

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                    What do Trump and Netanyahu have to do with the Democrats’ position on genocide? Do they have some sort of control over the party or are you just playing “whataboutism” so you don’t have to talk about the DNC?