Jd is a creepy weirdo, but the couch story was made up.
Not directed at you (unless you already knew it was fake, I guess) - I fucking hate it when people feel the need to make up stuff about someone who already has plenty of real red flags that need attention.
From an outside perspective on the other side of the world, I disagree. Any lie, once uncovered, makes it so much easier for even the the worst positions to be defended. ‘See, they have to make shit up about us, they have nothing’. Bam, now even all the other factual points are discredited in the eyes of many people who may have been on the fence.
Really? You haven’t seen a rise in facts being deemed false? Or maybe news being deemed fake? Maybe there’s even been a new term created for it that is being thrown around a lot by one side in particular.
Doesn’t seem like a good idea to give them more examples they can point to when they want to discredit your facts
Because you can’t prove something like that happened or didn’t so they wanted to protect their image and stick with only things that can actually be fact checked.
Jd is a creepy weirdo, but the couch story was made up.
Not directed at you (unless you already knew it was fake, I guess) - I fucking hate it when people feel the need to make up stuff about someone who already has plenty of real red flags that need attention.
Beating them at their own dishonest game has worked much better than trying to fact check them, and getting completely outpaced, ever did.
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From an outside perspective on the other side of the world, I disagree. Any lie, once uncovered, makes it so much easier for even the the worst positions to be defended. ‘See, they have to make shit up about us, they have nothing’. Bam, now even all the other factual points are discredited in the eyes of many people who may have been on the fence.
Okay you get on stage and make a salient point about how you did infact not fuck a couch.
Not what I’ve observed in the last 20 years for either side, but I guess we’ll see.
Really? You haven’t seen a rise in facts being deemed false? Or maybe news being deemed fake? Maybe there’s even been a new term created for it that is being thrown around a lot by one side in particular.
Doesn’t seem like a good idea to give them more examples they can point to when they want to discredit your facts
That’s not at all the assertion you made.
What I haven’t seen was any effective debunking that moved the needle.
Then why did the AP take down their fact check that said Vance didn’t fuck a couch.
Because you can’t prove something like that happened or didn’t so they wanted to protect their image and stick with only things that can actually be fact checked.
Yep. I’m worn out with the snarky couch thing. It was fake. Be better y’all.
It can be proven that the quote from his book is fake, but it can’t be proven that he doesn’t fuck soft, plum couches