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Rapidcreek@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 9 months ago

Majority of Americans continue to favor moving away from Electoral College

www.pewresearch.org

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Majority of Americans continue to favor moving away from Electoral College

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65% of U.S. adults say the way the president is elected should be changed so that the winner of the popular vote nationwide wins the presidency.
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    It’s wild that if multiple things we implemented republicans would never win the presidency again.

    Any anti voter suppression method, like universal mail in voting

    Ranked choice voting

    Removal of the electoral college

    I am sure there are even more.

    Remember that republicans are the minority, they just show up to vote more often (and aren’t actively suppressed)

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      Man what I’d give for ranked choice voting, it seems like a no-brainer

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        I’ve been working with local groups trying to get it passed. It may be worth investigating if there are some near you. Donate money or time or support.

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          That’s awesome! I’ll have to look into it

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        There are other options as well, approval voting has several advantages over ranked choice voting. It is simpler and it there is no spoiler effect (voting for your favorite candidate will never hurt your second choice)

        Some more info: https://electionscience.org/#approval-voting-explained

        https://electionscience.org/education/spoiler-effect

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          Thanks this is interesting!

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        Gotta remember this system was setup by literal slavers.

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      They’d still win the Presidency occasionally. They’d just have to do it by adopting policies that more voters would support.

      You know - what they’re supposed to be doing.

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      https://youtu.be/K-hdJIWsK3A

      I think it’s important to point out that strategies would change if the system changed so we can’t predict what the results would be.

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      They would still win, but they would have to shift their platform to capture the true political center rather than the center right.

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      The way elections are run Is mostly up to the states. The electoral college, though, is stipulated in the Constitution.

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        So is a method to change the Constitution.

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          That really is the only way to get rid of the electoral college.

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

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              The states changing their electors outside their popular vote is exactly what Trump was trying to do.

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                  Nice try

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                And they’re gearing up for version 2.0. Shit’s gonna get weird in a few months.

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          Are you suggesting with say…an amendment?

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            Or we could ratio it out of existence. If we had 10,000 representatives then the EC would match the popular vote results.

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      The electrical collage is way overdue to be retired. I wonder if we will have the means to actually do it.

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      Unpopular Fanatics vs Apathetic Majority. Conservatives refuse to change their unpopular policies and with all the crap they pull to make elections favor them, they struggle to get 50/50. If elections were made fair and representative of the population…they would never win. The only way to win in that environment is to have the more popular policies, and that is antithetical to conservativisim.

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      Actually, it would be better for Republicans to try to convince the population their solutions are better instead of the BS we have now. It might help the Republican Party become somewhat normal again and then get more votes. I would love it if we could have real debates on real issues, instead of the BS we have now. I might even be a tad conservative in some areas… But right now, the choice is between Dems or Crazy Town. I think a popular vote would change politics and strategy so that you couldn’t have a Trump anymore.

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      Gerrymandering

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