Oh no, my miserable life that’s devoid of any connection and anyone altogether otherwise *at least contains a friend.

What the fuck man, is this a real concern average people have that I’m way too fucking alienated to understand

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    This whole struggle session has made it crystal clear that the west is pretty much guaranteed to descend into fascism. A lot of people basically seem to knee-jerk dismiss concerns people have about being in the friend zone, and without a legitimate leftist response to this, tons of alienated young men are going to find their way to reactionary figures and basically become the foot soldiers of fascism. There needs to be more concrete help for these alienated guys other than saying “it’s all capitalism’s fault that you feel that way” or saying “oh you even mention the friend zone? tHaT mEaNs YoU’rE aN iNcEl!” I mean yes capitalism has really alienated us and commodified dating but that’s not gonna help the lonely guy who gets rejected all the time other than in an intellectual way. Also telling him that “you should just be content with life” is also not helpful either. I mean yeah you can be all Buddhist about it but would you say that to other disenfranchised people as well? “Hey sorry about the discrimination but it’s better to just be content with life.” Is this what an AES nation would do? Sounds like some idealist western shit rather than a principled materialist approach that takes into account the realities on the ground. The USSR industrialized, developed, and got rid of cyclical famines. China lifted millions out of poverty. They didn’t just say “it’s capitalism’s fault that you’re homeless” and then just leave it at that, they actually did concrete stuff. There needs to be concrete action done to deal with this issue other than mockery/dunking or simple platitudes like “hey just be yourself and be content.”

    Anyways, like I’ve said before, the west is doomed.

    amerikkka amerikkka-clap

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      Im laughing so hard im crying, i ran into my partners room to read this to him omg thank you. this is the funniest thing ive read all month. comparing not getting laid to homelessness how the fuck are you not an incel?

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        At this point the word incel has basically multiple meanings. It can be a legitimate state of being (in fact the person who came up with the term was a woman) or a knee-jerk insult. It’s basically just like the term tankie.

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          yes let me be clear i meant it as an insult, in a way to call you a misogynist. you reek of entitlement and its actually gross dude. edit im getting rid of these rest of this because it was too mean and you need help. seriously. youre the problem.

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            Did you grow up in an immigrant and/or religious community? I grew up in a major US city and although it’s not cool to outright shame somebody for being a virgin or “late bloomer”, everybody thinks it’s unusual. Marriage before degree is unusual though, at least among my PMC cohort.

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        No, those who are lead to reactionary figures is irregardless of dating someone.

        That seems essentialistic.

        Not to mention so many of these people that complain about this are below 22, at which dating is viewed as uncommon among most of the normal population anyway

        ??? What are you talking about?