Compelling arguments.
Counterpoint:
Lmao. The problem with anarchist ideology is that it can be coopted into anything. Like, half of these arguments are incomprehensible.
Yes, Minors are robbed of autonomy by the patriarchal family. Yes, They should be afforded more freedom over themselves and their lives. This is no way justifies romantic or sexual relationships between an adult and a minor. Even within a society where a child and an adult are on completely equal grounds in terms of rights and power you still have the massive gap of years of knowledge, experience and both physical and mental growth the adult is going to have over the child. This makes abuse and coercion on the side of the adult extremely easy. This isn’t even covering the awful effects this type of relationship can have on a child’s mental health. The power imbalance is inherent.
To address the second comment. This is absolutely not the case. It’s often the very institutions and systems that oppress minors that lead to them being sexually abused. The whole “haha priest touch little boys” “”“” joke"“”" is literally born of the power adults have over children in institutions such as the nuclear family, churches, schools etc.
A point I bring up in these conversations is that a reason children are so commonly the target of sexual assault isn’t because paedophilia is rampant but because children are easy, accessible targets who are less likely to be taken seriously and have less direct power to fight back. The same reason why poor and/or disabled women, trans people and sex workers are common targets of sexual abuse while we have laundry lists of bourgeois, white cis men who got away with years if not decades of sexually abusing people. They exert material and therefore social power over these groups. It is in the material interests of those who wish to sexually abuse children to uphold this system. Actual paedophilic attraction or not.
Those with genuine paedophilic attraction NEED to have nonjudgmental mental health services available to them because there is simply no consensual way to fulfill their desires. A minor simply cannot be trusted to make a clear, uninfluenced decision that fully understands the implications, risks and possible harm in a situation where they are being asked by an adult who they are likely trying to appease. Will you have cases where they grow up and not regret or be hurt by it? Sure. But the majority ARE deeply hurt by these experiences and it was still built on imbalance and misuse of power regardless. Paedophiles are in no way evil for desiring something that’s unable to be practiced in a way that doesn’t unconsensual harm someone, but the issue there is stopping those wants becoming actions.
a “fun” game i like to play is when i encounter an anarchist writer i’m not familiar with is to search for the author plus age of consent/majority/adulthood/etc. this pretty reliably brings up a good reason to disregard their entire body of work.
This is actually so insidious, oh my god. Are they arguing for the legalization of children being in “relationships” with adults? Also the points made in the first comment make no sense, children are allowed to pursue relationships… with other children! Comparing segregation and how interracial marriage was illegal to children being with adults is disgusting to say. Preventing consenting adults from falling in love is an infringement on freedom, allowing an adult to date a child is abuse, not freedom.
I remember your post about these “youth liberation” subreddits, and while I agree in the protection of the rights of youth and ensuring their prospering (creation of social spaces that are free, recreational activities, better education, etc.), this subreddit doesn’t really feel like it’s actually focusing on that. Maybe it was originally started on that premise but it devolved into something horrid. I wonder if the person in this post is actually a misguided minor or an adult cosplaying a child online. This reeks of grooming and should be removed from Reddit like how r/jailbait was.
Yes this is just a nonce being a nonce and I hope to God they got wiped of the sub for it
I will be fair to the subreddit and say that there is a good amount of it that seems harmless (if not really focusing on anything substantive.) but then there will be a post about teenagers that will give you the creeps.
That’s very nice to hear mate. Now, face the wall please.
Children are not emotionally or physically developed enough to have romantic or sexual relationships with adults OR other children. There is no need to philosophise about this, there are countless psychological studies published about the harm childhood sexual abuse has. Don’t ask a fellow pedo about whether it’s harmful for children, ask a survivor of childhood sexual abuse.
How come I cannot find arguments for or against youth liberation (real youth liberation, not supporting nonces) from an ML perspective? If any1 here is able to provide insight post below
[grab a PPSh with lethal intend]
Most people who support youth rights do not want to lower the age of consent.
These people are disgusting.
That’s true.
Wtf this shit is straight up pedophilia
